The TNT Podcast
The TNT Podcast
Halftime Memories and Mischief
In this TNT Podcast episode, DJ 20e joins DJ Turn Up and DJ Tanaka for a lively conversation filled with laughter and music insights. They share hilarious tales, debate city versus suburb life, and give a shout-out to their friend's DJ Von, the Icy Queenz, DJ Niche, & more. They explore the depths of hip-hop and analyze the complexities of fame with artists like Megan Thee Stallion. Additionally, they delve into Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl halftime performance, examining the nature of pop music and its cultural implications. The episode promises a mix of music, memories, playful unpredictability, & the segments you love!
Question of the Day: 21:52
Guess the Bars: 34:14
Hall of Fame: 1:22:45
Turn Up Song of the Day: 1:30:43
https://open.spotify.com/track/63FrXif0Pdu4NAPvTh87mw?autoplay=true
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=SYQv1vNTKBY&feature=gws_kp_track
https://www.iheart.com/artist/beyonce-feat-drake-89266/songs/mine-29604693/?autoplay=true
https://music.amazon.com/tracks/B073SYZY2F?do=play&agent=googleAssistant&ref=dmm_seo_google_gkp_tracks&explicit=true
Tanaka's Album of the Day: 1:43:06
https://open.spotify.com/album/1qgJNWnPIeK9rx7hF8JCPK?autoplay=true
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_laxXT0VIHD91rFpmp20OOAH-MlL2YIDmM&feature=gws_kp_album&feature=gws_kp_artist
https://music.apple.com/us/album/over-it-complete-set/1540833388
https://www.pandora.com/album/play/AL:3422262?part=google&corr=knowledge_panel
DJ Talk: 1:56:17
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is the TNT Podcast. We are back. Dj Turnup, dj Tanaka. We got a special guest back in the building DJ 20. It was actually funny, I think, tanaka. I think this is the first time you and 20 have been on the show together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'd be correct.
Speaker 1:This is the third time that 20's been on this show and you were either. No, I think both times he was sick. Yeah, it's four. No, it's not four. What was the four? Well, you could talk you could talk now.
Speaker 2:Well, so there was, there was twice where he was sick, and then there was once where it was me and ac.
Speaker 1:No, that's what I'm saying so what was the other time that you were sick? Because the first, the one time I remember was when you were here. We were here, we did it, and then the other time was when we was in my parents basement with alvin. That's the only time I remember. I don't remember. I think there was one other time. I swear I thought it feels like there's only three because, I just remember.
Speaker 1:It's just distinct moments for all three is that the, the the first time was with alvin and that's when we did the certified lover boy and all that. Yeah, I remember the second time we were here and I remember you had, you had tiny for the hall of there you go okay, well, maybe you could remember anything distinct about the other one. That'd be great, and I'd be like oh yeah, I remember that, but I don't remember. I only remember you being on there.
Speaker 2:No, maybe, maybe maybe this is the third time, I don't know maybe I can't count I don't know anyway.
Speaker 1:Dj 20 how are you sir?
Speaker 2:I'm good.
Speaker 1:I'm good, I'm good how you guys doing um, I'm here, uh and uh, as this podcast is recording, I haven't moved, so I'm still in the middle of that. I'll be excited. I'm actually going to be on this. Be in DJ 20's neck of the woods moving to G-Co.
Speaker 3:G-Co, gotta love it man. Gotta love it, gotta love it man Going to G-Co man.
Speaker 2:G-Co. It's cool. It's growing. From when I last remember it wasn't, there wasn't this much traffic. Man you going, I'm trying to leave.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just like being out the way. I don't like I would never in a million years they couldn't pay me to live in the city, like that shit. It's just too much going on. It's just too much going on. It's just too much going on. You know what I mean. Like I could live in the city. Hey, bro, you like a whole bunch of shit going on. Hey, more power to you, man.
Speaker 2:There's a lot going on. I like the. No, I just really like the mobility of the city, you know, being able to go from point A to point B without having to.
Speaker 3:I said that emotionally. Yeah, Relax bro.
Speaker 2:It's just like you know what I mean. I don't need a car. I could, you know, hit the MARTA. Yeah, right Things are a little bit too far.
Speaker 3:Yeah right, 20 hitting the MARTA. How late you be out here, man. Oh my God. And you can take the MARTA.
Speaker 2:The MARTA is like it's not 24-7. Well, it is 24-7.
Speaker 3:Bro, that joint do not. That don't be on time and you already be late, so what type of combination? Is that man?
Speaker 1:I think that's what he meant Not up late, but you be tardy to the party, yeah.
Speaker 2:We're working on that, are we?
Speaker 3:Yeah, we, yeah, we're working on that, are we? Yeah, we're working on that.
Speaker 2:I can't tell we're working on that.
Speaker 3:What time was his arrival? Supposed to? Nah, alright, but you know what I'm saying? We're not even gonna get into that.
Speaker 1:He had work, so we're not gonna get into that.
Speaker 2:Don't let him live. You know what I'm saying you don't let him live. I had work.
Speaker 3:That's what that's what helped me out.
Speaker 2:Man Tanaka, how you doing, you know what I mean. This is the first time I see you on your own show Right, call it the TTN20 podcast, or it'll just be TNTNT.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what the triple T.
Speaker 3:Who said that? I think Tonic. Somebody said that. I think Tonic said that.
Speaker 1:I feel like Tony said it. I don't know.
Speaker 3:Nah, I'm talking about the conversation Last night. You know what I mean. But yeah, man, how am I doing? I'm tired, but it's all good, I'm happy to be here. You know what I'm saying. Fellow, fellow delinquent. You know Our fellow delinquent In the building, man Big T-Wolves, the one that's. Yeah, man, he be the heart of the glide out here. You know what I'm saying. The heart of the glide.
Speaker 1:I can't tell you the last time I went to go to glide.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know it's a. You know it's doing its thing. You know it's the last family. You know it's doing its thing. You know it's the last, it's the last family. Well, I think I was talking to Vaughn about it.
Speaker 3:He says shout out to Vaughn. Shout out to Vaughn.
Speaker 2:He's going to be back soon. Went over to Arizona and go to school to be a pilot. Oh, wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doing this thing out there. Ooh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doing this thing out there. Oh, yeah, taking flight man. Yeah, shout out to vaughn, he's gonna be making good money.
Speaker 2:he could retire like within 10 years, and that's how much money he's gonna be making yeah, that's, yeah, that's gonna be dope definitely but, um, he was saying that, um, when it comes to at least the east side, golden glide is the last like family oriented establishment on the east side, I mean, and they've gotten rid of, like, the arcade thing at stonecrest, um, and there's nothing else around one, they got rid of wait.
Speaker 1:They got art, they got the arcade joint at, uh, golden glide. I feel like every time I go there that joint is like always like shut down. Yeah they got it in the corner I feel like every time I come there, that joint joint is always shut down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they got it in the corner, I feel like every time I come there, that joint is like none of the games are on. Yeah, no, I think they started turning it on now, more recently, but yeah, it's in the corner. That's the last family-oriented establishment. Everything else is, you know, cleaning up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that must be why the folks got mad at me when I was playing all that hawaiian stuff, not a ratchet stuff, but it's like it's a team session, but they got all these little children out there, but I don't know oh, they got mad at you for that yeah, I said, bro, it's the team.
Speaker 1:But didn't that happen to you? I feel like that happened to you too.
Speaker 2:No, they got mad at me, for it wasn't the teen session, mine wasn't the teen session, mine was the family session. But the thing is, the music I was playing was TikTok music.
Speaker 1:And you know some of that TikTok music can music.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. So they got mad about that and they complained and I was just like, okay, this is what your kids are listening to, whether you like it or not yeah and and what with, with all that you got, you got to kind of I don't know.
Speaker 1:Those are battles you got to kind of pick and I'm not going to lie For me. I feel like if it's not going to get a big reaction out of the kids, I try to stray away from it. The most raunchiest stuff that I play that would get a reaction from the kids is that trip out stuff. That joint is hella raunchy.
Speaker 2:She was complaining about Crank that by Soulja Boy.
Speaker 1:No, that's deep, that's deep she was. No, she was black.
Speaker 3:She must not like Muslim or something. She was Muslim. She must not know I do dance.
Speaker 2:It was songs like that she was complaining about, or Forgot it was, or maybe she knows like what maybe she knows what crank that soldier boy means.
Speaker 1:Remember they didn't. They say it had something to do with sex or something yes, no, bro, that isn't bro. No, look it up they said it's like the crank the soldier boy is like something like sexual or something. Yeah, that's, that's a real thing. I ain't gonna lie, I ain't gonna lie 20 and I don't know if you know this or not, but like that's not even the real version of Crank that Soldier Boy. Have you ever heard the like the real version of Crank that Soldier Boy?
Speaker 2:No, like he's really.
Speaker 1:Soldier Boy up in the ho. Want me cranking, want me, bro. Like that joint is like hella explicit. Superman, that ho Watch me, you Like that shit?
Speaker 2:like a totally different it's like a totally different, but that makes sense, though. Like it's supposed.
Speaker 1:that sounds like it's supposed to oh, no, no, yeah, no, no, no, definitely. But I just went off on a tangent, but yeah, nah.
Speaker 2:Nah, I'm not feeling it, yeah, yeah, I'm not feeling it jack, yeah. So, uh, what's been new with you, dj 20? So, uh, I've gotten into photography. Uh, as of late, you know, I mean apparently. Well, it's not. Apparently. I've been in it since last year. Um, this, this year, I'm deciding to take it a little bit more serious. I got goals for it, so we're pushing that. So, definitely, you know, tap in if you need your photos taken. That's what I'm doing. Everything that you need, products, food I guess food is a product. You know, head shots for my professionals. You know what I mean, just lifestyle. So I just posted something today with Drew and a Tesla. You know what I mean Shout out to Drew.
Speaker 1:How's he?
Speaker 2:doing. He's doing good. He's doing good. He's grinding. He's doing roadside with his friend. They're building that business. They're trying to take over Atlanta when it comes to the roadside business, so that's really good.
Speaker 1:So what does that include? Like when they see somebody on the side of the road, they just help them out.
Speaker 2:No, they're actually working with a company and the company sends them calls of, like you know, assistance that people need. So tire services, um jump starts, um lockouts, you know everything. You need fuel service if you need fuel, so you know any of the. If you're ever breaking down on the road, you know, you know holler at them and they'll get you rolling. And then if you need some pictures afterwards, you know I got you there you go so we'll do.
Speaker 2:We'll do. That's what's going on. That's the new stuff. Also, if you need to rent a car, let me know yeah, shout out to 20 if y'all wanna know.
Speaker 3:You know where the banner pictures from Nice and Slow came from you mean from?
Speaker 2:Nice and Slow came from you mean.
Speaker 3:AC. We can thank Big 2 O man.
Speaker 1:Well, I like how you wrapped that up, so let's talk about it. I like that you brought that up, though. So DJ 20, I mean, you haven't been on the show since 2023. But I mean, you know, nice and Slow happened at the time of recording. It has been two months, and I guess we didn't get your feedback on the podcast because you weren't on the podcast. So your thoughts on Nice and Slow?
Speaker 2:I definitely like how it's growing. It's definitely become a movement. You know there's a lot of people that don't come to like bailout Monday, which is like a big thing, but we'll come to that. So I definitely like the movement but will come to that. So I definitely like the movement. I definitely loved how everybody you know dressed up came, showed out. Everybody was happy.
Speaker 2:You know, everybody came in there, you know, I wouldn't even know how to describe it their little, their outfits. Yeah, I like the movement, you know, and it's gonna grow more and more and that's all you could ask for. And you know, eventually, um you, you'll be surprised who will actually pop up. You know, right now it's probably like you know your everyday average skater or celebrity skater, like your t smooth or something like that. But you don't know, like you know what I mean, one of these days you could get like a summer walker that may roll through there, or like a right you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Some a famous r&b artist might come through you know, you never know so and imagine what that would do to Nice and Slow. It is what it is now. Imagine how it would explode once a hero, a celebrity, comes through.
Speaker 3:Look, man, I appreciate you speaking that into existence first of all. But yeah, me and Turner, we owe you a big thank you. You did because you know we had an individual that was originally scheduled, you know, to hold it down and you ended up being the savior you did. So we just want to thank you, man.
Speaker 1:Right, you could have been anywhere else in the world you know, and yeah, and delinquents in distress.
Speaker 3:You dig and you popped up. You popped up to save the day. So we appreciate you, sir. Myself and Turner, we had a game plan with the banner. We did not want it to fail this time around, so we wanted to make sure that we had a photographer there. And you answered the call, man. So thank you for that, bro.
Speaker 2:No, no, no doubt you know what I mean. I still feel I was actually talking to Tanaka about this. Me personally, I did not like the pictures. Me personally, and nothing wrong with anybody who took the pictures, Nothing wrong with the pictures themselves, you know. I just feel like me personally. My artistic side wasn't able to come out because it wasn't my equipment.
Speaker 1:I felt like, yeah, I felt like you. We talked about this too. I feel like you said, you felt like you were like kind of underprepared for the situation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I was definitely underprepared, but like it was one underprepared, but like it was one of those where, like I didn't have my camera and then I didn't have it for a while because I let drew borrow it because he, he had a photo shoot.
Speaker 2:And when, you know, I finally got it back, which was was that day Um, cause, funny enough, we were doing roadside together at that. Um, that day, when you called me and I was just like, oh, okay, when I got it, took the SD card out, that's when I remembered, oh snap, I need an SD card and it was. I got to Walmart late but you ended up having a camera and I was just like, man, you might as well just give me an iPhonehone, and you know, I'll take pictures like that. But you know, when I have my camera and I have an sd card with space, like you know, I'm more so turned into an artist. It's like a dj, right, like you could, you know, make songs together on the computer. But when you have the turntables or or somebody else's equipment you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:No, I mean still with somebody else's equipment. You can still, you know, still be an artist. But you know, like I said, when you have a computer you could just press play to the next song, but you, know, yeah, but that's what I mean.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's more equivalent because it's like, um, what was I thinking? Oh, I mean the. The person that has said equipment may not be at the same level as your equipment.
Speaker 2:Definitely, but nonetheless they can try to, you know.
Speaker 3:I mean at the end of day 20,. Bro, the picture got taken, Right you?
Speaker 2:know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So a picture is better than no picture. You got taken right, you know I'm saying. So a picture is better than no picture. You dig and that's what we was about to have if you hadn't.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm saying have it down, so you know, nah now.
Speaker 3:Now here's my only gripe and so why?
Speaker 2:and you know, you know what I'm referencing- why, uh-oh, why, 20 man, you were delinquent.
Speaker 3:We had to have you you know what I'm saying pop up and say today, man, you know, we had to acknowledge our fellow delinquent man. Dude, that picture looked horrible. Oh, the picture. Yeah, he's talking about the picture, the picture that got posted on the 20 man, you gotta understand. I said this to you many times before. We needed to show variety. It wasn't so much about how good the picture looked, it was more so like oh, all these folks was there, I'm not going to lie, tony.
Speaker 1:There were a lot of people that were very disappointed about their picture getting made on the, what you call it. Was it Mari that contacted you? Oh?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it was contacting him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was like why did y'all post this picture?
Speaker 3:He told me this was a you know got to show the gang signs out man.
Speaker 1:Oh wait, you talking about Ty, right, I'm talking about Mari.
Speaker 3:No, she was on some gang. Shit too, she was.
Speaker 1:Oh, she just what was that?
Speaker 3:those like guns to the head, wasn't?
Speaker 1:it? Oh did she? No, I don't know, she just looked high oh, I don't know she was like nah, cause it wasn't like on the, like gang shit. She was like I think she had hit up and was like yo. I thought he said he was yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2:That's what alvin told me, yeah that's.
Speaker 3:How am I supposed to know that, right? Yeah, I feel like perfectly, you know what I'm saying perfectly, perfect. Yeah, yeah, no sir yeah, you know you'll be all right. 20 you do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man yeah me out here looking bad like I was in my whole enterprise, like he, represents your company with pride man you know I was looking terrible proud employee out here you do yeah the man said I'm just here so I don't get fired all right.
Speaker 3:So um, I'm saying it makes sense. You know how you spell your dj name 20e uh-E 20 Enterprise. I see, I see there, it is there. It is right there. Whatever, bro, go ahead, represent your company with pride, man.
Speaker 2:No, dude, that's not what was supposed to happen. Look Long as everybody. It was, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1:Look if it makes you feel any better.
Speaker 2:there was a lot of. They were looking rough Like it was. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Look if it makes you feel any better. There was a lot of people out there looking rough, so no they came.
Speaker 2:No, everybody that came did not come, looking rough.
Speaker 1:Not everybody, there were a couple people that was like.
Speaker 2:Nah, if they looked rough, they were intending to look rough, yeah no, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's the difference. Yeah, some folks came in there and had a chance to change clothes and all that and still came rough. You came not prepared. This is a last minute job and you made it happen and you look rough. There's a backstory behind that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was behind the scenes. I was supposed to be behind the scenes.
Speaker 3:And you brought me to the forefront. You had a jacket. I didn't bring you to anything.
Speaker 2:You didn't have to take the picture.
Speaker 3:Okay, I didn't take the picture, ac took the picture.
Speaker 2:Okay, you didn't have to post the picture I just.
Speaker 3:I just posted what I received. You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying you didn't have to and so nothing. You like an NPC?
Speaker 2:Yeah, like what was said, Just testing to see if Whatchamacallit, if the camera works.
Speaker 1:Chill out the NPC. Shit is hilarious bro, but yeah 20 is straight bro. I promise it doesn't look that bad. I promise it's pretty bad bro. Pretty bad is pretty damn bad 20,.
Speaker 2:It doesn't look that bad, I promise it's pretty bad, bro, pretty bad is pretty deep 20,.
Speaker 3:You're going to be fine out here. You're acting like you just went viral and it's like oh bro.
Speaker 1:Now, if that shit went viral I would apologize. I would be like damn 20. I didn't want to make you feel like an asshole.
Speaker 3:You wasn't even tagged. Damn like an asshole.
Speaker 1:You wasn't even tagged. Damn, you didn't tag him. Or did you not tag him for that reason?
Speaker 3:Yeah, man. He knew it was bad.
Speaker 2:Oh he knew it was bad. That's why he didn't tag me. Oh, that's fucked up.
Speaker 3:That's kind of crazy. I ran out of tags. I ran out of tags. I ran out of tags. Only 20 tags. A post man.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? How ironic. No pun intended, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's Chris, and what number pick were you?
Speaker 2:I don't remember it was the last one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you were number 20. Number 20.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that means they would have to go all the way through the joint to see you, and you know folks ADD on social media yeah, when they're looking for their picture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, looking for their picture Unless they're looking for their picture. They're going to scroll through all of them to see if they made it.
Speaker 1:Nobody in the comments said anything about you, right?
Speaker 3:Minority percentage. Sir, Alright, man Like.
Speaker 2:I said you just didn't have to. You know I wasn't intending to look bad 20,.
Speaker 3:I think you're overthinking the situation.
Speaker 2:I guess I think you're overthinking the situation.
Speaker 3:I guess, if you say so, I think you're overthinking the situation.
Speaker 1:Anywho, yeah, anywho. Well, I guess we'll move on now to the question of the day. The question of the day might be brief, but I just I just thought I'd bring this uh point up. Um, this is something I've been thinking about for years and always wanted an answer. You may, y'all may, not have the answer, but it's fuck. I just thought I'd bring up the conversation. Why doesn't Fox get his roses for Wipe Me Down? Did Boosie write that song like? Is there any back story to Wipe Me Down?
Speaker 3:cause I haven't looked into it. But no, I think that is Fox's song, cause he had the album there's literally a version without anybody else on it.
Speaker 1:yeah, and Because he had an album.
Speaker 3:There's literally a version without anybody else on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember he had an album too that he had released. Fox did have an album.
Speaker 1:And so they just Does Boosie ever talk about it? Because that's like one of Boosie's biggest songs is Wipe Me Down.
Speaker 2:Or biggest feature.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I ain't gonna gonna lie, I haven't done research on fox like that you're a true, really true.
Speaker 1:Family as a whole that needs to be your next project you need to do some.
Speaker 3:I do need to do some research. Um, I just know that fox. I think he had another record, but I think it was. Uh, it was a jigging song.
Speaker 1:Oh, so that's like some street classic Louisiana type shit. Yeah, I don't know about the jigging. Yeah, I feel like one time I actually looked up Fox and I just wanted to. Yeah, I think he's back to a regular person. He's just a regular person now. I don't think he raps anymore. I don't think he does, but I feel like I was a while back when I uh I don't know.
Speaker 3:I feel like everything kind of fell apart with true family after um pimps he died. No, what's the name? Mouse, little fat mouse oh, that wasn't mouse no, no mouse is the producer man.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, a little fact that's on 3D. Right, he's on 3D.
Speaker 3:I think so yeah.
Speaker 1:Damn Wait. Why did everything fall apart when he died? Was he like a big part, like behind the scenes, or something?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know Just that death. I don't know just that death, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I feel like she kind of tore everybody apart. Well, you know it wasn't as tight-knit.
Speaker 3:I feel like after that.
Speaker 2:But you know, there's always that one person that brings everybody together, and then there's also, like you know, sometimes death. You know it changes people.
Speaker 1:So I mean, yeah, you're not wrong about that, but I don't know. I hate how this is going to come off, but I don't know. I feel like Lil Phelps was kind of minuscule when it came to everybody that was in Troll Fam. I feel like Boosie Webby Honestly, those are the only two people I can really think of Boosie Webby and I guess anybody else that was in 3D and I guess Fox at the time. I don't know. Do you know anybody else that's in Troll Fam? Tanaka, well, at the I don't know Do you know anybody?
Speaker 1:else that's a true fan of.
Speaker 3:Tanaka. What time, I guess. What's the name? Who'd you say in my bed?
Speaker 1:I guess 3D.
Speaker 3:I don't even know. All I know, is Phat Lil. Phat Lil Chul. I forgot a girl's name, didn't even know there was a girl Like Kim McCoy, I think that was her name. Is she a rapper Singer? Oh, she's a singer.
Speaker 1:Singer on Trill Fam is crazy, tough, very interesting.
Speaker 3:Very interesting. Very interesting I might have to look that up. Yeah, I'm just. I'm trying to think back to that True Family compilation album. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:That was 07, wasn't it, or 06?
Speaker 3:Well, they had two of them.
Speaker 1:They had two. Yeah, oh, I only knew about the first one. I think Wipe Me Down was the first one, right?
Speaker 3:They had Survival of the Fittest One that had Wiping Down, and then they had All or Nothing I think I think it was the name of that. But, yeah, I F'd that joint. Yeah, because it got a song on there that I really rock with called when Would I Be, and that's probably one of my favorite verses that Boosie's ever spit is on that song Because he's basically speaking about. That was the time when he was facing the death penalty, yeah, and he was just speaking about his experience and just what he was thinking at that time. Right, Okay.
Speaker 1:And I'm not going to say that Boosie comes off as vulture-like. So I don't know For everybody to give the roses to Boosie even as little as Glorilla sampling the song and Fox not being anywhere on the video. I don't know. Fox and Boosie fall out. Were they not cool at first? They were is kind of. I don't know. Fox and Boosie fall out. Were they not cool at first? They were just kind of business partners.
Speaker 2:Maybe he's not into the music scene as much as he used to be.
Speaker 1:And that's what I'm thinking, because I feel like I looked it up and he was just kind of, just like I said, a normal person on Instagram. I feel like I found him on Instagram and it was just he was just.
Speaker 2:You know, that's what you know. People are at peace. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:He probably got a taste of what that life is like didn't like it he didn't like it at all and he was just like it's okay, I'm alright right probably, and if that's the case, if that's the case, fox, wherever you are, sir, and and if that's the case, if that's the case, fox, wherever you are, sir, I just appreciate you for coming out with wipe me down because, truthfully, that, yeah, very much so, and, honestly, not saying that I could have done without the busi and webby part, because webby is my favorite part unpopular opinion, but um, yeah, I feel like I feel like if I would have heard the regular wipe me down before I heard the remix, I would have been like, okay, and honestly and truthfully, I don't even. I actually like the UGK version better. So that's, that's a whole nother, that's a whole nother monster. But um, yeah, so I guess this, this question of the day, will be turning me, turning it into me giving my roses to Fox. Appreciate you for giving us wipe me down.
Speaker 1:I fucking love that song. That's like one of my. I feel like that was like one of my first favorite ratchet songs, like that, like one of the hood southern songs. I was like you know what this song is, very ignorant, but I, I fuck with this song, and it was when it first came out. I was because at first I was like the fuck is this? And then I listened to it. I'm like damn, this shit is low-key, like ignorant as hell and I fuck with it.
Speaker 2:Like this shit is hard but and then it turned into every like you can't, you can't. You have to hear that song if you're at some type of function.
Speaker 1:Function yeah, function college cookout hell even cookout like it's, like it's turning into like low-key, like a black family reunion, like you will hear that song when, when it's time to turn up at the family reunion.
Speaker 2:It's one of those songs that probably is turning to, a song that will probably never die. It's because it's something that that's one of those songs amongst black people I want to say it's up there with, before I let go, something that'll be like tradition you pass down from generation to generation right it makes it to those? Um, I mean, before I let go you know frankie mev, uh, frankie beverly and maze.
Speaker 2:Um, you know that song, that that goes without. You know any of the, the strolls, any of the that was before they tried to electric slide with it, like that song okay, I don't want to go off on a tangent.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry and I don't mean to cut you off when, when was that a thing I'm not gonna?
Speaker 1:lie I've heard, I've heard before I let go, like for a very long time, like I said, my grandparent, my grandfather. I will never forget this. I will always, always have this in the back of my head anytime I heard frankie beverly and maize, it would be in my grandfather's o2 jaguar, um, and he'd be playing the whole album. I don't know what album it was, but I know I would always hear before I let go golden time of day, southern girl, happy feelings, like all that shit. I never remember it being an electric slide with before I let go it never was.
Speaker 2:I mean the when it started, when that started when beyonce released her version of the song. No, I was before that no, I don't remember. Well, okay, it was what I remember yeah, like I didn't remember seeing people do it until like beyonce came out bro, I will never forget the first time I heard that shit in the club.
Speaker 1:That shit blew my mind. I was like, like we're in like a real deal club, like domain, like it's like one of those big ass clubs. It was club opera. I don't know if club opera is still a thing, but the dj played it and I immediately just thought of my. I'm like, bro, why am I thinking of my grandfather in a fucking club like? That's what that's what those songs do. Oh no, that's what the songs do. But I'm like, why is this song getting played right?
Speaker 1:now like this is literally in the middle of. Okay, let me think of the time frame. This is probably like. So this is like probably like. This is when shit and ain't about the money and like I don't know bands will make her dance pop. That like that's when those songs were hot, like really oh, let's do it like that type of stuff.
Speaker 1:So to hear before I let go was like, like what the fuck am I listening to right now, like, but the club went crazy? I no, no, I'm not gonna. I don't remember if the club went crazy. I was just so mind blown that before I let go was being played. But I don't know, teach his own, I guess.
Speaker 2:Um, you know what you know now, I mean, you'll find a way to put it in.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no, definitely like it's like in any old school set you do at the club before I let go is more than likely getting played yeah, you're gonna find your way to put it in there yeah you're gonna it's somewhere yeah, you're that that song more so than anything else.
Speaker 2:I like. You know what I mean. I wouldn't even do this is how you do it. Return of the Mac, candy Rain, those songs you can. But I mean, before I let go, it's a safe bet. You can put your money on it and know you're going gonna get a nice little reaction from it gotcha.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes sense. But to realize back in, yeah, like I said, um, this is, this was just me. Uh, giving fox's roses for wipe me down, I don't like I say I have.
Speaker 1:No, I have little to no information how white me down was made or whatever, but like yes, this is, this is if if fox is at peace with just life and he's just cool with you, know, and he just wanted to get away from the limelight. More power to you, sir. I hope you're living a. I hope you're living your life bro well, I also hope.
Speaker 2:Uh, you know, finances aren't a thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying that's like just everything overall.
Speaker 2:Just, I hope you're living life comfortably yeah, yeah, because you know sometimes, because sometimes someone like a Boosie, who doesn't release new music as often as our newer artists do, sometimes they go perform because they need it, because they need the money.
Speaker 1:They need the money.
Speaker 2:And maybe he doesn't need the money or he's just like, hey, you guys can go do it. Just break me off, right.
Speaker 1:Like I said, hopefully he's living comfortably, because I will say this, what really sparked this question? For real, for real, because you know it's funny, my homeboy shout out 104 Kenny. He would always talk about that Like he would be a lot.
Speaker 2:He would be really frustrated when rappers would make like wipe me down references and say like boosie and I would too.
Speaker 1:I'd be like like boosie isn't the only one on that song and it's not even his song. Yeah, he's a feature. Yeah, like kind of equivalent to uchiwale by uh, brave heart, but that's a whole nother story anyway.
Speaker 1:That's a whole nother story but, yeah, this is basically just me giving you roses, fox, I hope you're living comfortably and you know no financial problems or any problems at that, of course. So, yeah, but yeah, we're going to move on to Guess the Bars 20, can you pass me that? So, for the people that don't know what guess the bars is, we passed each other some bars and we read it off the f scale, which is fire, ferocious, flat, frisbee, fecal, and yeah, we try to figure out who it is and yeah, we just go from there. Um, give me a second, I'm going to see if I can find these. Microsoft Word, the paper. Well, no, the paper is put up, because I was supposed to be backing up right now. So it's somewhere. It's somewhere.
Speaker 3:Turn up. I just did a little brief research. I'll do a little more in depth later on.
Speaker 1:Okay, Would it be possible to add that to uh, at the end of tony's topics, can we add that whatever?
Speaker 2:research he did. We could do that, yeah, or right before or right before, or before, or after.
Speaker 1:I I mean whatever yeah, because I feel like you're gonna yeah before, because y'all gonna yeah. By that point you're gonna be burnt out, we're gonna be we're gonna be too deep in.
Speaker 2:Oh, y'all gonna be burnt. I feel like y to be burnt out.
Speaker 1:We're going to be too deep in. Y'all going to be burnt. I feel like y'all going to be burnt out.
Speaker 3:I don't want y'all to burn out so fast. Yeah, right too.
Speaker 2:Just know, you know how during Just do a little teaser, how the halftime show had a little teaser, right, you know what I mean, definitely.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So we're gonna move on against the bars. Um, I gotta get you the, uh, I gotta get you the little scale. I mean, at this point, tanaka, if you don't know the scale, shit by now, I don't tell you no, that's fine, I'll probably. I got it no no, no, I'm gonna give it to you because you're the guest, tanaka, I can't, I don't know. If you don't know by now, then I don't know, but um, let me just write it down Big, too low.
Speaker 2:I'm glad y'all are happy to see each other.
Speaker 3:It's gonna be a fun conversation. Not, this man's one of the shenanigans man. Ain't that right? Twin Twin Talking that money. Long the shenanigans man, it's not shenanigans, Ain't that right? Twin, twin. You know this man right.
Speaker 2:Talking that money long.
Speaker 3:That money long. What's up man you over there coaching Real bro?
Speaker 2:Man, I'm trying to coach Real and Lonnie, trying to get them right.
Speaker 3:Like I said, you know, yo Lonnie with them clean versions bro.
Speaker 2:With the youth man. Hey, listen them clean versions. Y'all sleeping on the clean versions. You can play it anywhere. Yeah, I mean it's not the song of choice in the club, but it doesn't mean you can't play it in the club.
Speaker 1:Yo, they're asking me how to use Audacity. Audacity's crazy. Alright, I'm going to start it off, since I got it in front of me. She got an Android. Her message is lime green. I search one name and it ends up seeing 20 tings Nadine, christine, justine, kathleen, charlene, pauline, claudine. Man, I pack them in this phone like some s oh my bad, like some sardines. I just added damn for some reason, and they send me naked pictures. It's the small things, you niggas still taking pictures on the gulf stream. My youngins, richer than you rappers, and they all stream. I really hate you been selling them false dreams, man. If, if your pub was up for sale, I'd buy the whole thing. For some reason, I think this is like a New York drill rapper. I don't know why. This just sounds like some. I can see them doing that little sturdy shit to this. I don't know why.
Speaker 2:No, I don't see it as that. I see it as he's definitely an OG.
Speaker 1:Think so. And he has some people under him he might, I mean he might be, that's what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 2:At first I was gonna say like wayne, but then I was just like not. What gave it away is, he said, my youngins. Yeah, I'm like, oh okay, so yeah you might have some.
Speaker 1:This don't sound like wayne at all. I'm trying to think. I give it a flat. It wasn't bad. I feel like on the beat it'd be better. It was cool. I give it a flat, flat fur, flat fur. It was cool. I won't just give it a straight flat. It wasn't like, yeah, but it was cool, I fuck with it. So C-Town B who we got?
Speaker 3:this is 20's favorite rapper and a record called First Person Shooter this is Aubrey.
Speaker 1:Of course it was. I knew Drake was gonna make an appearance. I knew Drake was gonna make an appearance.
Speaker 3:I had to do it for 20 man.
Speaker 1:You know what's crazy? To this day I still haven't heard this song All the way through. I don't know that last album, I don't know why I didn't necessarily avoid it. Last album, I don't know, I don't know why I just kind of I didn't necessarily avoid it. I don't know, I just didn't listen to it.
Speaker 2:The desire wasn't there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. Have you listened to? For All my Dogs? That's what it is right For All my Dogs. Yeah, have you listened to? For All my Dogs.
Speaker 2:That's the one with Rich.
Speaker 1:Baby, daddy and First Person Shooter I.
Speaker 2:Baby, daddy and First Person Shooter. I haven't heard it. Yeah. Not outside of the ones that not outside of all the Singles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because I think I Don't.
Speaker 3:Give a Fuck is on there too, right, I don't, I ain't gonna count, I don't you giving no fuck. No, no, I don't. Yeah, I don't know that record. I ain't gonna lie to you, you giving no fuck. But yeah, ja was definitely. You know the song that sparked it all. He was just like you know. Did I not hear you know the album? I was like, yeah, I didn't really. It was like what 23 songs or something like that, was it? Oh, I don't know lie, I didn't really. It was like what 23 songs or something like that, or something pretty long. And then on top of that, like, yeah, I don't know, I don't know why, it just kind of went under the radar. For real, you know, I don't know if it was the time that it was released in or what you know what it was and I feel like I have the album.
Speaker 1:I just didn't a lot of those songs I like try to avoid, because he keeps switching up the fucking tempo of the song and that shit oh yeah, yeah, he was so much as a dj. That shit pisses me off so much yeah, because it's hard to mix.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I will say, though, that um the video for first person oh, that shit is hard, yeah, yeah I I only recently like seen it. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't see it when it I commend them.
Speaker 1:I commend them for that. That shit was hard yeah yeah, that shit was hard I seen. Yeah, I seen it when it came out because I follow like all the like, I will follow some of the um hip-hop blogs so, yeah, that joint was hard.
Speaker 3:Though I be texting with a bod shit. We both freaky, just trying shit. Main ninja getting super jealous. He don't even know about the other fellas. I need a Mr Clean. Make that pussy beam. Okay, I just might need a baker Make that pussy cream. Okay, you woke up mad at me Before you even brush your teeth. Woke up mad at me what you say. Okay, you woke up mad at me before you brush your teeth.
Speaker 1:You even brush your teeth I mean because that's probably the first thing you want to do before you wake up Brush your teeth.
Speaker 3:I'm saying, though, I'll be texting somebody and say what were you just trying to say?
Speaker 1:I think said person is saying their priorities are all in the wrong order. Like you wake up mad at somebody I don't know, Something like that.
Speaker 2:And be a young boy. And that's my final answer.
Speaker 3:I need a Mr Clean Make that pussy beam. Okay, I just might need a baker Make that pussy cream Okay. You woke up mad at me before you even. Oh, so he's talking to the dude. That's mad.
Speaker 2:Sure, that was a slight troll answer. I'm not gonna lie huh oh no, he's not.
Speaker 1:He said he picked. He said he thinks that the NBA young boy.
Speaker 3:But yeah, it's a flat it's pretty flat.
Speaker 1:Well, it's actually funny that both of y'all didn't catch that, that that's actually a chick yeah, I didn't know main nigga getting super jealous. He don't even know about the other fellas. I felt like that when what he gave it away. I mean, unless it's like Saucy Santana or something.
Speaker 3:Well, because what do you? They said Let me see.
Speaker 1:I need a Mr Clean to make that pussy beam.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know. I thought for some reason it was like a dude saying that he gonna make the girl like. I don't know, I don't know, like because I'd be texting with a bi chick, so like we both freaky, just trying I thought he on some like, like some threesome type you feel me like the chick he texting she f with another girl.
Speaker 3:So they got the three, you know what I'm saying like I thought that's what he was talking about because because they said we both freaky, you feel me. So that's why I didn't think it was a female.
Speaker 1:So main nigga getting super jealous. He don't even know about the other fellas. Yeah, like he over there, like oh, he don't know that that girl has another.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like the chick I'm texting like your, his, her main dude don't even know that you feel me like he over there, super jealous. He don't even know about the mother. Fuck, that's tapping that. You know what I'm saying. Like I'm only. I'm only one of them, like my partner them had ran through shawty feeling tight joint like that's how I was thinking, interpreting it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Thank you, tanaka. Opening up minds, that's what I don't know.
Speaker 3:That's just how was thinking interpreting it, you know what I mean. Thank you, Tanaka. Opening up minds, that's what's up. I don't know, that's just how I read it, man, but yeah, who we got, man.
Speaker 1:That was Megan Thee Stallion.
Speaker 3:Okay, that was a song called Captain Hook. Oh, I know.
Speaker 1:Captain Hook, hook, captain Hook.
Speaker 3:Are heard. Captain hug, I feel like I heard one of y'all played like at a party or like some, some type of function.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying first time, you heard it though. Oh, dude, when I was looking up uh, you know when she was hot, and you know looking up uh any type of twerk music, because I remember back during bailout monday that was like a segment of bailout monday trying to look up so yeah, let's ask you, or it could have been, or it could have been, um, she probably something on the breakfast club.
Speaker 2:She probably had an interview on the breakfast club and she was like you know, we're talking about it and I went and I listened to it I'm not gonna lie, this is my favorite.
Speaker 1:This is my favorite version of megan the stallion. Just look wise. Probably not rap wise. I mean rap wise. She's doing about the same, not saying that she was ever. This is my favorite. This is my favorite version of Megan Thee Stallion. Just look wise. Probably not rap wise. I mean rap wise. She's doing about the same, not saying that she was ever bad or didn't make any improvements. But I ain't gonna lie. Shawty was thick, like like I, and I hope I hope that she's gotten thinner because for health reasons and she's like healthy.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah that's.
Speaker 1:And if that's the case, cool, I'm not mad at it. But boy, this fucking video. Boy, that ass was assing boy, I ain't gonna lie I ain't gonna lie to you, boy.
Speaker 3:Well, so yeah, we'll ask you 20. What temperature do you think Meg the Stallion is right now in the industry?
Speaker 2:In the industry. I think she's very, I think she's flat, you know, because I think with Tori you know either on her side or not. You know what I mean. And she's not. She's not that prominent figure anymore, it's more so like a Glorilla.
Speaker 1:That's really Glorilla, and Sexy Red has really taken over. Has really taken over that and I don't know. And it's crazy and I'm glad that Glorilla was able to prove me wrong, but Glorilla's really taking over and I don't know. I feel I'm not saying Sexy Red is getting stale, but I don't know. Well, glorilla actually could correct, yeah, but I mean it's. I feel like it's deeper than that. I feel like it's more of like just I won't say her as a person, because I feel like sexy red isn't a bad person either. Like all the decisions she makes, I feel like it's on brand for her and it's like it's like nothing, like too outlandish, like I remember she got into a fight with somebody at the airport for reasons like sexy red, yeah, sexy red on brand whatever.
Speaker 1:It's sexy, red, cool, but like, like even a little shit. Like her leaking a sex tape. Like I was like what did y'all expect from her? Like y'all just think she's just sitting at home playing video games. Like like that's what I'm saying, like that's why I feel like, even when that happened, like it was news for a moment, but it was like like even like her response was funny, like she was like damn, like y'all couldn't tell that was a leak. Like bro, I got freakier shit than this. Like yeah, like y'all, y'all like the y'all, like the bad shit, like I mean y'all like some weak shit like this is so do y'all think that?
Speaker 3:do you think that meg could regain like that?
Speaker 1:look at this point, anything is possible. Because I always say this I never would have thought mick mill would have be able to rebound after back to back, and I didn't think. I didn't, hell. I didn't think ray sherman was gonna be able to rebound after um, no flex zone and no type. And I didn't think, um, there's another one, there's another one.
Speaker 2:I don't know I can't think of it right now, but anything's possible. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it depends on what she wants to do right I mean I do feel like you know even her herself, like I feel like she's kind of running I'm not going to say running away, but she's kind of deferring from the spotlight. I feel like with everything that she had going on, you know it changes you. Whether it was Tori, whether it was her friend, was it Kelly? Whoever it was, you know that changes you and, like you know, you don't want to be in certain circles which comes with the industry, and you probably don't want to experience anything like that again. So I mean, yeah, you make the stallion, so people are always going to know who you are.
Speaker 2:But you probably, you know you don't want to be with those type of people or be in that position again and, being that, you have this target on your back because, like they say, don't read the comments for a reason. It's hard to do when you're that person because, think about it, you have so many fans saying that we love you, meg, but the ones that are sticking with her is what's her, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:What's her fan base called?
Speaker 1:Oh, the oh, I don't know. I don't think I know her name Hotties.
Speaker 3:Oh, the Hotties. Yeah, yeah, you're right. So the Hotties are saying that like we love you, and then you have everybody else no, they're supporting her, but they're saying like, yeah, like she's playing chess compared to all these other rappers.
Speaker 1:You know, I don't know, that's just what oh, that's what, that's what, that's what, that's what the narrative is yeah, that's what they're claiming.
Speaker 3:Like, compared to these other rappers, she's playing chess. I hope that's the case playing chess.
Speaker 1:Shout out to just the way she's moving.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's kind of like on a chameleon.
Speaker 1:I mean not necessarily like chameleon, but like chameleon didn't really care about the music. He came out with songs and mixtapes and all that stuff, but he had a bigger picture yeah, now he owns like a record label but now that I think about Megan Thee Stallion, I didn't think she was going to recover after. I don't even remember what fucking album that was, but then she bounced it back with that Japanese song. What's Japanese?
Speaker 2:And that song was huge. That song was huge, that song was yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that song was pretty huge and it's TikTok famous and I mean, yeah, yeah, so, oh, so. But yeah, shout out to. Megan, I gotta watch that Captain Hook video again. Boy, that ass was assing, so you want me to pick one from here.
Speaker 4:Pick one yeah pick one, Any one Okay cool, I have my own.
Speaker 2:You know what I found? My own, actually. I'll save this for another day.
Speaker 1:You said you found your own for another day you said you found your own. Mm-hmm. Oh, you sent. He sent you one.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't send him a, no, I'm saying, he sent you one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what you talking about, 20?
Speaker 2:It's for Guess the Bars. Yeah, I know, I got a bar.
Speaker 1:Well, no, you can't use your own bars, you gotta what?
Speaker 3:Then that defeats the how you going to guess the bar when you already know what it is.
Speaker 2:Isn't that the point? No, it's not the point.
Speaker 3:The point is to guess the bar. What are we talking about? Swinney, that's your boy. Swinney, what type of operation you?
Speaker 2:running over there, man Listen, listen, listen. I'm always for the streets, but, baby, not for the block. Came here for what I want. Can't hate me for what I got, Because when I add it up, buddy, it ain't a lot. I count fast feet to be everything that I'm not, but put it all together, oh Lord, them two country boys ain't no bum, no back seats taken. I told y'all. Swear for God, I will.
Speaker 3:And what makes this worse? 20? Is this not even your first appearance on the show, man?
Speaker 1:Well in his defense.
Speaker 3:Oh, you guys didn't do the guest of bars.
Speaker 1:Well, no, the Alvin one was the album review oh, okay, okay so this is his second time doing the guest of bars and also in his defense, that was two years ago.
Speaker 2:Well, one a year and two each other, right yeah, okay, yeah, I forgot about that, it's all good clearly someone doesn't listen to the show.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, he doesn't. It's all good. Clearly, someone doesn't listen to the show. Oh yeah he doesn't?
Speaker 2:It's all good, listen to this. Um, this is, this is. It's a flat for More so towards flat, more so towards flat, more so towards flat.
Speaker 3:Yeah 3-2 over there man 3-2, what you mean that?
Speaker 1:man not happy as hell when he said that.
Speaker 2:Flat Flat.
Speaker 1:You want to take a guess at who it is?
Speaker 2:I could always take a stab at it. I want to say Nardo Wick, there we go. Honestly, nardo Wick is not even the one that's a shot, boy, nardo wick.
Speaker 1:I boy, that's talk about it.
Speaker 3:Man, I totally forgot he just dropped six of the songs he playing I hear it, I hear the project, but all right the ep.
Speaker 1:I guess I say he from Florida too, ain't he I?
Speaker 3:don't think so. Do you think so? I think so. I want to say like Jacksonville or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but anywho. So yes, no, that is not Nardo Wick, this is actually Bubba Sparks. This is a song called Overcome. Are you familiar with Overcome by Bubba Sparks? No, I'm not familiar. I Are you familiar with Overcome by Bubba Sparks? No, I'm not familiar.
Speaker 3:I'm not familiar with his game. Do you know Bubba?
Speaker 1:Sparks, that's all I know. Bubba Sparks. I'm not familiar with his game Figured Alright, let's see. Let's see what this next one is. One day we gonna graduate and cop a brick, and that's the key. That's the key, my nigga. Listen up, I'm about to go and get rich. Stand back and watch, if you want to. Nigga Me, and oh me, I want my pockets fat and a battered bitch. Tired of seeing niggas flaunt, I want to flaunt too nigga. Tired of seeing niggas flaunt, I want to flaunt too. Nigga. Watch the roller in a fucking crown vic trying to lock a nigga up. That's what they do, nigga well, want to know a funny thing about this shit. Even if you let them kill your dreams, it'll haunt you, nigga, haunt you. I feel like I know what this is, but for some reason, some of some of these words is like the wording is, some of them aren't. I don't know. It feels like it's coming and it's not. It's coming and it's not. It's coming and it's not, but trap talk. It's like some old school trap talk, though.
Speaker 2:It feels like a Gucci or a Jeezy type of.
Speaker 1:It doesn't seem like Atlanta, it seems like some, some off Atlanta, like it'd be like Alabama, mississippi, texas, one of those, probably Texas, I don't know Crown Vic, I feel like Texas maybe. Um, I'll give it a, I'll give it flat. It's cool. So this is yes, it's not really doing anything for me but it's not really doing anything for me, but it's not terrible. It's not terrible, but yeah, yeah, that's my guess, somebody from Texas, or one of them off-brand.
Speaker 3:So this is somebody from North Carolina.
Speaker 1:Beautiful Off-brand as hell. The baby.
Speaker 3:J Cole. A. Tale of Two Cities.
Speaker 1:Really, that's Nice Watch Run. It Is that that.
Speaker 2:No, oh, you talking about the album.
Speaker 1:No, does he say that in the song?
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:Watch.
Speaker 3:Run it Hands in the air? I think so, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I see it now one day when it gonna break, and that's the key. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, definitely. I'll say the first time I heard this was I feel like I vaguely heard this like on, like some just hip hop early type shit, by the way. So I put two. I put two and two together. I'm not gonna lie as as a kendrick fan any kendrick fans, any kendrick fans out there I'm gonna just let you know the odds of him ever coming out with a collaboration album with anybody is slim to none. I don't see him ever coming out with a collaboration out with anybody. His, his, the way his mind works. I don't. I don't think that's ever gonna happen. So just I don't. I don't know. I randomly thought about that a couple days ago and I was. I just felt like I had to put that out there.
Speaker 3:I don't know the way his, yeah, I feel like it would, just like it would, really it would. It would, no, it would, it would really have to make sense to him. You know, I'm saying like, and he's like a very precise yeah, he's very like, you know, perfectionist. So it's like, if it's not, if it's even slightly off, he's like all right, we'll just, we'll just, you know, either put a song on the album or something like that, but we're not gonna do a whole project.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you feel me like. Yeah, I don't see that happening. I just thought I thought it out there and then he.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm sorry, what made me think of?
Speaker 1:this was um, because you remember him and j cole did the flip thing where he I think he freestyled on this, didn't he?
Speaker 3:oh I forgot about yeah and then j cole freestyled on.
Speaker 1:Was it all right?
Speaker 3:no, I can't remember what it was. I do remember that they did that, though, and that's when everyone got all excited, yeah, excited because they didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I forgot what J Cole rapped on, I feel like it was alright, but I feel like I'm wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't remember. You remember that 20?
Speaker 2:Um, vaguely, I don't remember the beat that. Yeah, I vaguely remember something like that happening.
Speaker 3:I put my feelings aside. You want me to die, but baby, I'm still alive. But baby, I'm staying alive. Supposed to be one of a kind you putting on miles I thought you was down for the ride. I'm trying to turn up her style. We going, chanel, she get everything in her size. She in some shit with another guy, I don't even care. Whenever I see you, you mine.
Speaker 2:That's some toxic shit. That's some toxic shit.
Speaker 1:That's some toxic shit.
Speaker 3:Baby, I don't understand a lot. That's deep. You want me to die. It's kind of deep, supposed to be one of a kind read it one more time, tanaka, I'm sorry I put my feelings aside. You want me to die, but, baby, I'm staying alive. Supposed to be one of a kind you're putting on miles. I thought you was down for the ride. I'm trying to turn up her style. We going Chanel. She get everything in her size. She in some shit with another guy, I don't even care. Whenever I see you, you mine.
Speaker 1:That's some toxic shit. Toxic. That's how you moving Tanaka, even when she was another guy. You don't care, you mine.
Speaker 3:That's how you moving. I'm not going to lie to you Watching this new show I've been watching. It's like Shout out to the Chi, it's just interesting.
Speaker 2:You just started watching the Chi.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just found out about this show.
Speaker 2:Dude, you're like six years behind.
Speaker 3:I don't watch TV, but that's my whole thing. You're talking to somebody. I don't go looking for shows. I get suggestions from people and then I go check it out you have to actually sit him down. I don't be looking on these sites for what's the new show?
Speaker 2:What season are you on?
Speaker 3:Season 6. Season 6?. I'm waiting for the next season to come out yeah, yeah, I done, I done danced through that whole like the past week. You feel me?
Speaker 1:so you started from season 1, yeah, and now you're on season 6 yeah it's impressive thank you that's what I was doing with the Marvel shit, so I don't I don't I believe him, but I actually need to get back on that.
Speaker 3:I mean, this is interesting because I'm really intrigued to what record this is, because you Want Me To Die is deep, like somebody you're having feelings for, and they want you to die. You know what I'm saying. It's like damn, what did want you to die? You know I'm saying it's like damn, what did you do to you feel me? What did you do to the other person that they? You know I'm saying, but yeah, you still got this feeling like whenever I see you, even if you would another dude, you heard me like you're forever gonna be mine, type shit like that's you know what I feel like that's.
Speaker 1:That's one of those, and I remember we have an off air conversation about Usher. You got it bad. It's one of those. You got it bad is a very interesting song. I'm not even going to die. That's going to be another question. That's going to be a question of the day. We're going. That's another episode, but yeah, but do you have a guess on who it could be future?
Speaker 3:well, I'll give you a quarter of a point. This uh, I'm gonna, did I rate it, I'm gonna get this. Uh, yeah, I don't, I'm flat ferocious. I don't know why I just kind of like this.
Speaker 1:I don't know right, yeah, like cause you messy, just like Drip said, shout out dj trip. Anyway, no, I'm just talking shit, but um, nah, that was um, oh, yeah, I'll give you. You give you like a quarter of a quarter of a point, because it's not future. However, he is from atlanta. That was a little baby. Okay, it's off a song called staying alive, are you?
Speaker 3:familiar with. Uh, staying alive, that's. That's funny. You say that that I that actually came to mind, but I was like no, because I heard the record. Yeah, that's crazy. No, it's funny because I literally recently looked that record up. Why? Because I was like why would you do that? What is DJ Khaled doing? He usually drops an album, like every year. Ty and I was like I feel like he's getting ready.
Speaker 1:Oh, have you not heard that? No about dj khaled. No, oh bro, like he's about to drop an album. And they were like. He was like, oh yeah, I got drake on the album. And then drake commented on the post and was like, must be, drake bell oh yeah, must be what must be.
Speaker 1:Oh, you don't know who that is. You don't watch tv, so there was you don't watch TV so there's a show on Nickelodeon called Drake and Josh. He's an actor named Drake Bell. He's known for shows like Nickelodeon, shows like the Amanda Show, Drake and Bell. I think he had a couple movies out and basically that's what DJ Khaled was like. Oh yeah, I got some songs with Drake on there and Drake kind of cited.
Speaker 3:When was this? This was recent, yeah this is recent. Oh, recently. This is recent. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:In the span of like a few weeks, maybe Right, and he was like must be Drake Bell. Drake commented, drake commented, it said that Must be at Drake Bell.
Speaker 3:Oh, kind of side. Yeah, so like I'm not on the album, that's what he's saying, I guess. Oh damn. That's what's implying I uh, no cause, I was just curious, cause I was like I was thinking back to the last project. I don't know how, you know what I think, because I was like you know, usually the Grammys be having like some crazy nominations, like why would they get nominated for a Grammy? But yeah man, khaled. And then I realized I was like dang, it's really been three years since Khaled dropped bro.
Speaker 1:You know what's crazy Now that you say that? It is interesting that you say that because now that I think about it, just to tie everything up, I think that's how I knew that florida, uh, nardo wickles from florida, because the way he was back in nardo, he was like oh yeah, you know florida, you know florida. We got to stand together, stick the other block florida stand. You know the cali shit and so yeah, no, so it's crazy.
Speaker 3:so I watched the music video, or yeah, whatever it was the studio for Alarm of God.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you can read that, read that one.
Speaker 3:But yeah, basically, I'm sorry I know it's long-winded, but I saw the studio. I guess they made like a studio video or something for that song Stayin' Alive, and it's just basically like I don't know, khaled like dancing around, like vibing while they're in the studio, like rapping their verses and stuff, and it's a very interesting record that's not a good record.
Speaker 1:It's an interesting joint Staying alive. Yeah, well, you can read that.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I heard yeah, so I have heard that record, that joint dropped in what 23? Maybe, yeah, and I guess I don't know. I guess it didn't move the needle, so I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:It had no substance in it. That's why. Alright.
Speaker 2:Dissolve the solution. Nationwide recruiting. I don't want your damn girl, she's Craigslist prostitution. Ice rice, don't get blinded by the sight. I could fracture streetlights. Rolling dice with Mark Price Rap game. Janet Jackson in the cactus. Jack Black bends Ice on my ear. Got me balling like the Pac-10. I should know this. There's a lot going on in this freaking record. I should know this. Very interesting. Balling like the Pac-10.
Speaker 3:What dude, I can't. That doesn't even go back to where do you?
Speaker 1:are you talking about what he just said?
Speaker 3:no, no that because I'm thinking, oh, there must be some underlying issue between probably that, uh probably sided with kendrick or something no, but oh my bad, I keep thinking this is like an old thing, this is recent literally just yeah, yeah, okay okay, I'm sorry for some reason.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he definitely had a couple records with kindred too, wait.
Speaker 2:So who who made? I thought khaled made the beat for dre.
Speaker 1:What beat um, come on staying alive. No, what are you talking about? Made what beat?
Speaker 2:no um, or made beats for Drake um.
Speaker 1:DJ Khaled. I didn't know. I didn't know. Khaled made beats.
Speaker 2:I thought he was an executive producer yeah no I think well, I could be wrong, I don't know. I thought I thought cause you said sided with Drake, I mean sided with Kendrick. Oh, I don't know, maybe he heard.
Speaker 1:Maybe he heard that Khaled said some shit about I don't know. I don't fucking know. This is fucking I don't know bro.
Speaker 3:I mean it has to be that, though it has to be something.
Speaker 1:That's the only reason why he would, he would say something like that, I would feel oh well.
Speaker 3:I don't know, it's just not it's a mess it's not looking good, it's not it's not looking good for the boy, right?
Speaker 2:anyway, so yeah, my guess well, your rate first oh, um this, oh snap, I'm dropping it. This I give it a to, not I mean.
Speaker 1:It's a flapper. Now the artists.
Speaker 2:I feel like they're like an outlast artist.
Speaker 1:Truth be told, I don't know where he's from, but this is an artist by the name of Riff Raff. Are you familiar with Riff Raff?
Speaker 2:I think I know I don't even know what song I've heard of Riff Raff, but like it's a song called Brain Freeze, are you?
Speaker 1:familiar with Brain Freeze probably not. I feel like I should. I mean those lyrics sound familiar. Brain freeze Are you familiar with brain freeze? Probably not. You said you know this.
Speaker 2:I feel like I should. I mean, those lyrics sound familiar.
Speaker 1:It's familiar Okay.
Speaker 3:Got you he's uh, was he from Texas, I think?
Speaker 1:Maybe. Yeah, I think he's from Texas, maybe. Alright, last go round. Feel like Tupac. I got two bitches. They fucking in the spot. Her ass fat. I'm grabbing, gripping, i'ma squeeze it till it pop. You know how I get around. I get your pants down. Then I rock Hood nigga, i'ma pull my pants down. Keep on my socks. Jamaican nigga, she be feeling on my hair. She like my locks. I put her head on my cock and I told her suck it, don't stop. Hey, you can call me Tommy. I got the drink up in my belly. This is a frisbee. This is not good.
Speaker 1:This joint probably sound fire on a beat. I'm not going to lie, but this joint is kind of whack. I'm not going to lie, but this joint is kind of whack. I'm not going to lie. Lyrically wise, this shit is like. I mean, I can appreciate. I can appreciate the staying on topic and the slight metaphors. You can call me Tommy. I get the drink in my belly. It took me a while to realize who he was talking about. I was like from Martin. I was like, okay, rugrats Got it. I feel like Tupac. I got two bitches fucking in the spot.
Speaker 3:Wait, wait. What is the Hold up? Say that last line.
Speaker 1:You can call me Tommy. I got the drink in my belly. What's the reference? Tommy Pickles, from the Rugrats the baby.
Speaker 3:It's actually a double entendre.
Speaker 1:Beautiful. You can tell me that later. All right, I feel like Tupac. Two bitches, they fucking in the spot. Is that a double entendre too? Because I didn't get that either. If it is, it went over my head. I don't get that either. Say it is it went over my head.
Speaker 3:I don't get that either.
Speaker 1:Wait, say it again my bad, I feel like Tupac got two bitches they fucking in the spot.
Speaker 3:It's the lyrics after Her ass fat.
Speaker 1:I'm grabbing, gripping, i'ma squeeze it till it pop. After that, you know, I get around, I get your pants down, then I rock. Oh that's I, then I rock, I get it wrong. It took him two of them, so I had to wait for the metaphor Gotta be patient, you gotta be obviously.
Speaker 1:I done already forgot. He didn't reference Tupac. See, yeah, this is getting frisbee. It's like a frisbee flat. It's a frisbee flat. I'll give him he more leaning towards the flow. I don't know. He in the middle, he in the middle somewhere, I don't know, it's a 2-7 out here man 2-7. You know what I feel like. For some reason, I feel like this is like 2000, 2011, 2012, waka Flocka. This is what this sounds like to me. Watch it be like fucking J Cole or something.
Speaker 3:Go ahead. Who is this? It's a rapper named NL Lee Chopper.
Speaker 1:That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3:It's a song called Picture Me Grapin'.
Speaker 1:I've heard of that. Is that the one where he's sampling Picture Me Rollin'? Yeah, I've heard of it. I don't think I've ever heard the song and, um, no, the reason.
Speaker 3:That's the double entendre, the Tommy cause I didn't know about the Rugrats.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying oh, I just he said he got the drink in my belly, so I'm thinking like he's drinking a bottle okay, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Tommy is a character in Rugrats. Yeah, okay, I didn't know that. The reason it's the double entendre is because Belly, the movie Tommy, is getting his dick sucked by that little girl maybe that might be it it could be both.
Speaker 1:I feel like that means more of that. That's probably suck.
Speaker 3:It don't stop but drank up in my belly like I don't know I just did, did that character from rugrats have a baby yeah, that's what I'm saying, though, like he was always, he did he always not always, but he's a baby so I'm like pretty okay I mean babies drink bottles.
Speaker 1:That's why that's my I don't know that's that's what I reach for. I've never seen belly, so I yeah, I don't know'm going to give him the double entendre.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can give it to him.
Speaker 1:I'll fuck with NLE. He's interesting, very interesting, alright, last one. Oh, wait a minute, my bad. Oh yeah, keep that. I forgot it's Tanaka's turn. I'm sorry, I just keep it.
Speaker 3:Nah, I was pointing at him because that's one of your boys, ain't?
Speaker 1:it, that's one of your boys. Oh, you fuck with NLE.
Speaker 2:NLE cool, nle cool.
Speaker 3:He was one of your top picks, wasn't he? I could've sworn. Last time we had a discussion about hip-hop and rappers he would have put it.
Speaker 1:He said NLE Choppa.
Speaker 2:I don't remember. That doesn't sound like me.
Speaker 3:Definitely said.
Speaker 1:NLE Choppa, very interesting.
Speaker 3:Definitely said NLE Choppa.
Speaker 2:Probably popular.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we were saying young artists hot in the moment.
Speaker 1:Philip just make sure you make sure you separate them, because I feel like you're gonna. I know which one it is okay, well, I just feel like he gonna read I'm trying to say I rock with little bivy.
Speaker 3:But little pump is a little chump, but body little yachty. Then give him some little lumps, probably just because I'm older and got me a little grump. Because when the kids get in the rover, little yadi getting some bumps, little dirt get putting in work. But fuck this little perp. I stepped to his face and slapped the shit out. His little smirk. Little boozy told little uzi take off that little skirt. Son was still chilling, his feelings just got a little hurt. Oh, it's a New York rapper.
Speaker 2:That man has beef with Yachty. Well, a lot of little rappers.
Speaker 1:That's what they sound like.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah trying to think of a new york rapper that hates southern music pick all of them.
Speaker 1:I mean any of them that can't. Any of them born in fucking the 70s.
Speaker 3:So yeah, there's got to be like a 90s, 2000s rapper.
Speaker 1:Y'all know how hateful y'all fucking New York rappers are, especially the ones that would be in their 50s. Be in their 50s now. Be in their 50s, now 50s and older now, hell, probably 42.
Speaker 3:I don't know, though, does Ghostface, because I want to say Ghostface, but I don't see him hating on the young generation like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't see that either.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't see that either. Yeah, I don't See. The only person I didn't think of was D-Max, but I know D-Max didn't rap this. Yeah, I don't know who?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because the F word would have been thrown around a lot more. Yeah, being gay and all that.
Speaker 3:Um yeah, this Frisbee.
Speaker 1:Oh, because he's being so hateful to the youth. Is that why he's getting frisbee?
Speaker 3:I mean, it's like what them folk be saying Hickory, dickory, dock, the mouse ran up the clock. Oh damn, it's just kind of. It's just kind of basic to me, man Chump, grump, bump, smirk, skirt, chillin Hurt. Kind of basic to me, man. Chump, grump, bump, smirk, skirt, chillin' hurt, I don't know man. Frisbee, okay I mean, I guess he, yeah, I guess he was upset.
Speaker 2:Tanaka needs a. He wants the rappers to you know, make you feel like you need a thesaurus. Is it thesaurus?
Speaker 3:It's just not really saying okay, make you feel like you need a thesaurus, Is it thesaurus? It's just not really saying okay, this rapper, this rapper, this rapper, this rapper, you know.
Speaker 1:That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not a complex one.
Speaker 2:You need a thesaurus yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So yeah, this is actually a little disappointing, because this is, this is your boy. This is boy, by the way, yeah this is this saigon. Oh is it this is off of a song called little big. Are you familiar with little big?
Speaker 3:that's crazy. That makes sense sense. Now I could hear Saigon rapping. No, I have not, you have not, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see what's up. You're now growing Saigon bro.
Speaker 3:No, I like him better when he's making songs, when it's like a diss song it's like he kind of loses. I don't know. When he raps with a purpose, it comes off better.
Speaker 1:He had a purpose.
Speaker 3:Purpose was fucking good yeah but him dissing on him? I don't know bro. Him hating on the young generation. That's not it. That's not the Saigon. I wouldn't listen to that type of Saigon. It's like no, I know Saigon is like he's trying to speak positive for the community and society and stuff. So hearing this is like I don't know. Man, anyway, got you.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:Last but not least, I'm that nigga. Same old nigga. Ain't shit changed Name, getting bigger. Hoes be choosing Booches be rooting. Fuck is you doing? Bitch, start screwing. I ain't here to play games. Watch ya or kiss ya, bitch, use a flipper Me on them. Dolphins since the 8th grade, bitch you be tossing. I guess he's got a point to prove. I don't know. This is Jesus, what was it? It was below flat Frisbee, yeah, frisbee. This is a frisbee. It sounds like every other. You know what I mean. Street.
Speaker 3:Didn't move, it didn't move.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it didn't move, that's what it sounds like it didn't move.
Speaker 1:You got to it, just didn't move me. That's what it sounds like. That's what it sounds like it didn't move me.
Speaker 2:You going to take a guess? You got a guess. Nba Youngboy. That's my final answer.
Speaker 1:I definitely don't hear. Nba Youngboy, but this is a rapper by the name of. It's a West Coast rapper by the name of J305. Are you familiar with J305? I'm not familiar with J305. It's a song called Use a Flip. Have you ever heard of that song? What's your favorite line off? Use a Flip. The first one. Oh okay. It makes sense. It makes sense, cool, all right, y'all, that was Guess the Bars, and we're going to move on to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3:Hall of Fame Yep. Hall of Fame Yep. Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1:Hall of Fame so the hall of fame was interesting because I think that was the first time we ever had four people on hall of fame.
Speaker 3:And let me see if we can find find this because I actually wrote it down.
Speaker 1:These are your crocs turn up it's the Crocs that we wore for the prison outfit. Let's not get him riled up on that Anyway. So the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3:You got to save it you see the big smile with 20 over here.
Speaker 2:You got to save it, not we got.
Speaker 1:We'll talk about it later. All right, so Hall of Fame. So the nominees were DJ Unk, the Ladies of Murder Inc. Lil Wayne's era of 2005 to 2006, and the whole Drake era from 2009 to 2024. Shout out to DJ Tonic and Lavender, including their nominees, and the winner is for the next inductee into the TNT Podcast. Hall of Fame is Lil Wayne's era from 2005 to 2006. Appreciate everybody for voting and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2:How Drake lost.
Speaker 1:Because y'all didn't vote. You didn't vote, did you vote how?
Speaker 2:he lost. Did you vote? Did you vote 20? Did you vote?
Speaker 1:20?. I mean, hey, we left it wide open for everybody to vote.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what were y'all talking about? Saying that Uncle's going to win easily?
Speaker 1:I'm not going to lie, that's actually pretty sad. That man died, and still lost. That's crazy talk. That's crazy talk, but anywho. Well you know, since you're the guest, I'll let you go first. Since it's the Hall of Fame, pick whatever you want to be inducted Into the podcast Hall of Fame and why you pick that inductee. Alright, alright. Is that your?
Speaker 2:nominee. No, that's not my nominee.
Speaker 1:You know that's going in.
Speaker 3:We're not there, yet I don't think I've ever worn Crocs.
Speaker 1:So what did you wear with your outfit?
Speaker 3:I never. I don't think I wore any. I had skates on.
Speaker 1:So I'm saying how did you? You just had socks on, that's what I'm saying. What had skates on? I'm saying you just had socks on, that's what I'm saying. What did you walk into the skating rink with?
Speaker 3:I think I just had some regular shoes on.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think I wore mine to the strip club too, though.
Speaker 3:I think I wore mine to work Crocs because folks be swearing by these Crocs. They just like Dude, I'm North't mind a work crocs Because, like folk, be swearing by these crocs Like they, just like.
Speaker 2:Dude, I'm North, that's a big thing.
Speaker 1:I can't wear crocs Because, ladies and gentlemen, you just got to know yourself and I know, if I ever invested in some crocs for real, for real, I probably would never wear shoes, ever again yeah, you wouldn't, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3:That's why ever again, yeah, you wouldn't, I wouldn't. Oh, so they are hella comfortable.
Speaker 1:I mean they're not comfortable, they're just convenient. They're very convenient to wear, especially in the way of like today, you know, depending on when you're watching this or listening to this and guys be wearing Crocs.
Speaker 2:Who wears Crocs? Bro, I have on Crocs now.
Speaker 3:I'm paying attention to what 20 be wearing. I just know he be jacking with AC.
Speaker 2:That's not true, that's so not true.
Speaker 1:Anyway, we don't want to get him sidetracked.
Speaker 3:Tony, what's your nomination, bro?
Speaker 2:That Georgia. Snow man, it snowed twice in January. Georgia Snow, georgia Snow, bro, that that georgia snowman it snowed twice in january.
Speaker 3:Georgia snow georgia snow.
Speaker 2:Why are we?
Speaker 1:inducting georgia snow into the tnt podcast hall of fame.
Speaker 2:I mean it was more of like a. This is, you know, tnt pod, like the hall of fame. You know it's typically for a good thing, but this is just more so memorable and how annoying it was yeah, I lost like five hundred500 off the fucking Georgia Snow. Yeah, I lost some money too, and it was very inconvenient. You know, like you can't yeah, like that snow.
Speaker 1:It was definitely memorable. Yeah, and Georgia Snow canceled Trap Fever, so you know.
Speaker 3:Definitely did. So, Georgia Snow.
Speaker 2:That's my nominee into the TNT Hall of Fame, at least the 2025 version, whatever.
Speaker 1:Alright, so Tanaka what we got.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm going to piggyback off of 20 here, but I'm going to be a little more specific. The Jeezy Snowman contest.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that was interesting.
Speaker 3:I saw the snowman at one and I approved. Like that was, that was dope, dope snowman. You know, that they made you know. So it was interesting to see everybody's creativity With how they made their snowman.
Speaker 1:But, um yeah, I enjoyed Seeing the different snowman Jeezy, snowmen that were entered into the contest that's him knowing his crowd and since he said Jeezy, anything attached with Jeezy is gonna win, so he already knows he's gonna win but I enjoyed the snowmen right, so I'm gonna go completely left with either one of y'all, either one of y'all's joint, right?
Speaker 1:so I'm gonna go completely left with with either one of y'all, with either one of y'all's joint, and I'm gonna nominate a character, but a specific character. So I want to nominate the Joker from Batman, but I want to specifically nominate Heath Ledger's Joker. That was a very like in my opinion. I don't know if you're big with superheroes, but like that's like. That is my favorite. That is my favorite rendition of the Joker. Right, once again, it had Jeezy. You know your crowd and you know most of our crowds are ATL riders. So, and you know as soon as you said Jeezy, that's a dope-ass snowman.
Speaker 3:as soon as they hear gz.
Speaker 1:Their fucking panties get moist anyway, so yeah anyway, back on my um dang joker yeah, I'm nominating that because I'm just giving heath ledger's roses.
Speaker 1:He wasn't. He wasn't able to see his, his character come to life because he passed away before the movie came out. But, um, if you've never seen the dark knight, I'd highly recommend you see the dark night. That's like. I feel like that is the greatest batman movie ever like, and we can, we can argue, we can argue day and night to that. But yeah, he pledged her. He, um, really lived his character and honestly and truthfully, I feel like that's what really fucked him up in his later life was because he really lived that character for real, for real, and it fucked him up mentally.
Speaker 1:But, um, yeah, I mean, you know, they say that um actors have to become like who they are or who they're acting, so that they can um and I feel like, well, yeah, and that's what I feel like he did, boy, he put his all into that character and yeah, got the best of him. But, yeah, that's my nominee Heath Ledger Joker. I might go watch that movie again. I might put that movie on, we're done anyway. So, yeah, that's the nominees Georgia Snow versus the Jeezy Snowman contest versus the Heath Ledger Joker. We're gonna put it on the Instagram and we will let y'all vote and hopefully, this time y'all vote. You know certain people, you know whatever, so, yeah.
Speaker 1:So up next we have the next song of the day. Is that all we got? Yeah, song of the day is gonna be a song by Beyonce and it's actually featuring Drake is a song called mine. I don't know if you guys are familiar with the song, but, um, that is one of. That is probably one of, if not my favorite songs by beyonce. I'll give y'all a little bit of information on mine. Essentially, mine is a song about the messy and complicated aspects of love. Track centers around doubt and telling uncertainties she's experienced in getting married and becoming a mother and falling in love. It delves into insecurities, communication breakdowns and power struggles that that can arise in a relationship, even when there is a strong underlying connection. Question Tanaka Beyonce came out before Lemonade, correct?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's correct and question the Solange situation. When was that the Solange elevator situation? When did that?
Speaker 3:happen, I think, in the swing oh, so this the. Beyonce happened, did it?
Speaker 1:Beyonce happened before. Hold on, hold on, hold on Because I'm not going to lie bro, that was a very, that was a very, very random situation that happened yeah.
Speaker 2:Were you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the elevator situation with her and Beyonce and Jay-Z. That was so weird. I was like wait what, why is this happening? And then she comes out with all this music and I'm like wait what, why is this happening?
Speaker 3:And then she comes out with all this music and I'm like, ah, okay, this makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in between, yeah, it was in between. Oh, so Beyonce happened, then the elevator happened and then Lemonade. Yep.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, because I think the Carters project was what 2015?
Speaker 1:I thought it was like. I thought the Carter's joint was like 2016, 2017. You know what it was 2017. I now remember that because one of the dancers used to like dancing to anything. I think it was anything. I can do anything, I don't know, I don't want to get, I don't want to go on a tangent with that, but yeah, 2018. Yeah, oh, damn, yeah, you were way off. Let yeah, oh, damn, yeah, you were way off, let's see. It captures the push and pull of wanting to be with someone but also feeling afraid of getting hurt. Drake's verse swerves through B's and it adds a distinct flavor and the confidence of the emotion that B brings to the collab. The song came out on the album beyonce, which came out in december 13th 2013, and it was track number nine. It released under parkwood and columbia records. Um, to knock a question, are you familiar with the parkwood records?
Speaker 3:yeah, that's. That's beyonce's personal oh, that's her.
Speaker 1:P, that's her. Oh, I didn't know that. Does she have any artists under that?
Speaker 3:I think it was just Chloe and Hailey.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's it. I do remember them having that, having that connection with Beyonce. That's interesting. Okay, and that's under Columbia Records. The more you know the song was produced by Omen Majid. Is it Majid Jordan? Is that how you say his name?
Speaker 1:yeah, magic jordan or magic jordan magic, jordan key wayne and 40 boy. That's a stack lineup for one song, good lord. But I mean, I'm assuming the 40, the 40 joint, came with drake. I'm pretty sure, pretty sure, anything that has drake's name on it probably has 40's name on it. The music video has a lot of symbolism in it. It's directed by Pierre oh, I don't know how to say his last name, so I apologize, pierre, I'm going to try Debouchier. Debouchier Sounds French, sounds French Debouchier Debouchier. Do you know who that is? No, you don't know who that is. No, you don't know who that is. Pierre Deboucher, that's who I'm going to go with. Deboucher, probably. Apparently he also directed the video for Ghost.
Speaker 1:There's a distinct parallel imagery of the two works of art and apparently he got motivation from the. Apparently he got motivation from the. Apparently he got motivation from the mikey michelangelo uh, michelangelo work of the lovers, which was intended by the director. Oh, let's see. But yeah, apparently there's a lot of symbolism in the um, in the music video, with her on the beach and drake in his own little, own little area of. Apparently it was something along the lines of. Drake felt lonely, I don't know, even though he was in a relationship, he felt like he was alone, so that's why he was in the area by himself and there's some other shit. Who was he in a relationship at the time? That was 2013. Honestly, drake was really low-key about all his relationships. I didn't know about the scissor thing until he said it on the Mr Right Now situation.
Speaker 2:He may have been with that girl.
Speaker 1:No, he wouldn't have been with that girl, he wouldn't have been with his baby mama yet.
Speaker 2:When did work come out?
Speaker 1:Look that up, Tanaka, Look that up Off the top of my head. I want to say around that time. I want to say around 2013, 2014.
Speaker 2:Then you would have been in a relationship with Rihanna In 2013? That's when they were like Work came out in 2016. Oh damn, okay, so it wasn't, then I don't know who he was in a relationship at that time.
Speaker 1:Well, see, if you can find that information um the song, the song certified in two different countries. The song went gold in canada and platinum in america and it's charted in france, the uk, canada and america. Um question have y'all heard this song before? Okay, have you heard this song before tanaka?
Speaker 3:oh, what song is this?
Speaker 1:mine by beyonce drake. I've been explaining it.
Speaker 3:The whole time. Nah, I'm not gonna lie, I missed the title, I missed the title I missed the title, bro. I'm sorry, I'm gonna just keep going.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I heard the song when the song came out, because my mom had the album and she would play it and I would either hear it in passing or be riding in her car and the song caught my ear because I thought it was a dope song and I was a big fan of drake. I was at the time I was djing and working at the boys and girls club, um and uh, yeah, oh. So this is the critics reception. Mine was generally a well received was well received by critics, though the opinion was varied on certain aspects. On the good side, many critics praised the song production. The blend of r&b trap elements and african beats was seen as innovative.
Speaker 1:The beyonce vocals performance was widely commended and appreciated by the song's honest portrayal of the relationship struggles, particularly the exploration of the insecurities and doubt. Beyonce's willingness to reveal her vulnerabilities was seen as refreshing and the doubts and the doubts of others. Drake's contribution was also praised with many feelings. His verse added depth and percent and oh and perspective to the song's narrative. On the not so good side, the critics found the lyrics to be somewhat fragmented and lacking clear narrative. While the emotional tone was conveyed effectively, some felt the storytelling could have been stronger.
Speaker 1:The song structure, which is largely chorus free, was a point of connection for some. While some appreciated the unconventional approach, others felt the lack of traditional choruses made the song less memorable. Overall, mine was considered a strong track of Beyonce's self-title, which had some minor criticisms, but the song was largely seen as a creative and emotionally resonant piece of work resonant piece of work. So, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to hear one of beyonce's stronger tracks on on her later side of her career, I would highly recommend you listen to drake's and beyonce's song. Um mine, and that is dj turnip song of the day and we're about to go to the album a day. And I'm not going to pay attention to what tinaka said because he didn't finna go get a finna go get a water or something.
Speaker 3:But yeah, that's on fire. Oh, shut up. That's on fire. That's on fire. Nah, that's crazy. That was actually one of my favorite songs off that album.
Speaker 2:Mine yeah.
Speaker 3:Cause um what's it called.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there was one more thing I want to add okay, go ahead and go ahead and add it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not like tanaka's gonna pay attention anyway last thing, before we get to album of the day.
Speaker 1:So the another thing I wanted to add was that, um, I did fuck with the song. The only issue I had with the song because when the song came out, this is when I started to get into um, the skate world. But if you listen to the song, there's a part of the song came out. This is when I started to get into the skate world. But if you listen to the song, there's a part of the song where it goes halftime and not it's like, instead of doing this, it goes. And I was kind of like, damn, I want to play this song, but I feel like that part would fuck up the skaters, type shit. So I went to once Virtual DJ got stems and stuff, I was like, wow, I fuck up the skaters, type shit.
Speaker 1:So I went to um once. Once virtual DJ got stems and stuff, I was like, wow, I could really do something with this song now. And so, like I started, like I started, I started playing with like the beats and stuff. Yeah, finally able to play the song, and I actually have a remix of the song on bandcamp. So, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to support.
Speaker 1:Go check out Bandcamp and listen to the DJ Turner remix and all that how's the joint go? This one's for the bad yeah, this one's for the good girls, yeah yeah, nah that that joint was one of my favorites off the album.
Speaker 1:It's possible and also it's possible he could have been on um dating tyra banks at the time 2013 I don't know, I feel like drake just got ndas galore I ain't gonna lie and I feel like he just doesn't. Yeah, he keep that shit on the low, like on the low low, which I'm like a respect.
Speaker 3:I don't I don't like my business all out there like that, this whole kendrick joint, you know like I feel like I feel like them folk even if something happened, they not gonna say nothing, because they done, already signed that contract which is interesting that you say that, because that actually puts it in perspective.
Speaker 1:Um sisa had a. Um sisa had a, a little I think like it was her Kiki Palmer and somebody else I think it was Issa Rae maybe and they were like at like a round table eating like, I guess, hot chicken or something like that, and I guess the thing was they either had to answer the question or they had to eat the hot chicken and apparently the chicken was really hot. Oh you talking about hot ones.
Speaker 3:No, I don't think it was hot ones oh, isn't hot ones like an interview type thing well, they do an interview, but they also gotta eat the like. They ask questions, yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It wasn't like an interviewer, it was just sisa kiki palmer and I think, isa ray, I think that's her name I might have to check that out. Yeah, she was like kiki palmer was like is drake a good kisser? And she was like, like, why would you go? How would you? And so she was like give me the chicken give me this chicken.
Speaker 3:Yeah, give me the chicken man yeah, but I hate it.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I'm finna, go get a water for real.
Speaker 3:I'll be back all album of the day. Album of the day we're gonna go with summer walker over it. Um, yeah, man, you know, I feel like I feel like r&b was, r&b has been kind of in a weird place this whole time. You heard me, and so the fact that 2019, summer walker, you know, uh, started creating a buzz out of her you know what I mean, and I don't know. I feel like I discovered her and everybody's like who's this girl? You know what I'm saying. Like she, just she tatted up singing, you know, with her little guitar and all that. You heard me. And then she, finally, you know, she had her first project, which, you know, created a big buzz. And then, when the album came, I feel like, you know, everybody was waiting on it. Yeah, definitely, and I could respect her artistry because I was like, you know, it just felt very natural. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Like her music, and so, even though I can't personally, as a guy, necessarily maybe relate to all that she's speaking about, all the girls I can appreciate the perspective that she gives to the women you did because I clearly you know they rocking with her heavy you know they love summer walker love summer walk.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. Got to love the toxicity out of this, but yeah, this album had Body playing games come through, yeah, and then even some. Oh, of course, girls Need Love. The remix with Drake. I think that was a bonus track, though. The remix with Drake. I think that was a bonus track, though, but yeah, and just the us being skating ring DJs. We obviously have gotten a lot of requests for even album cuts off of this project, you know, such as tonight. Just might I think even I'll kill you. I feel like we've gotten um requests for so, but as a whole, I mean, I think it was just a solid r&b project, you know, and um. Clearly she knows her demographic and and clearly she knows how to write. You know good songs that folks is able to relate to, you know, um. So yeah, I salute summer walker.
Speaker 2:Um, just wanted to give her some shine um, she actually showed up to bailout monday, so right it's definitely some.
Speaker 3:She would some walker right, and you know I I respect the uh paying homage with the Album cover. It was. What movie is that? Dang it. Why am I not Blanking on the Movie Summer Walker over it? What is the cover paying homage to?
Speaker 1:I didn't know it was paying homage to anything, oh for real what? Was it paying homage to?
Speaker 3:I thought it was paying homage to something. Is it Baby Boy when he's on the phone?
Speaker 1:with that. She's in the pink.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's talking to the. Yeah, this one yeah, I didn't know that I was paying homage to anything yeah, he's talking to the, uh like when he's on the phone with the ratchet chick and she's oh damn I gotta find it friday, that's friday is it friday?
Speaker 1:maybe it's friday, and then the guy is laying in the background and nobody noticed it until like now. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Exactly, yeah, yeah, I think. So I'm not gonna cap Go ahead and get the. But yeah, london on the track, you know, obviously was A huge influence on the album. He produced pretty much the whole project, pretty much the whole thing. They was involved in a relationship which clearly a lot of these songs were about him. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, og Parker, yeah, a lot of very talented individuals, um got involved on this project and um, so, yeah, aside from the singles I think they just threw on through as a whole project, um, you know, top to bottom is pretty solid. So if you want some r&b for all my women that listen to R&B and appreciate nice and slow yeah, you know, toxic, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's just perspectives on relationships and different situations, and I can always appreciate seeing different sides because, as you know, us guys we think a little differently. You know what I'm saying. We view things a little differently when it comes to relationships. So hearing a woman's perspective and also the fact that she can sing well, you know, I can appreciate it. One flick.
Speaker 1:Am I going to give him for not? Oh, I didn't know he was drinking. You drinking too? Okay, I'll give you a shot.
Speaker 3:Nah, just give me a green cup, or yeah, just give me one of them cups If you got them. But yeah, let me see here. But yeah, so that's my album of the day. Man, summer Walker Over it, that was her. I believe it was her debut album, cause I think the last day of summer, I think that was just like an EP or mixtape Type of deal. So that album, yeah, last day of summer type of deal. That album, yeah, last Day of Summer, I think that was a mixtape or EP project Last Day of Summer. That was like an EP mixtape album, right.
Speaker 1:Last Day of Summer Summer.
Speaker 3:Walker, her first project.
Speaker 1:See, I'm not gonna lie. I didn't get into summer walker until uh over it till that album.
Speaker 3:Okay, I mean, I knew about playing games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I knew about playing games and, uh, girls need love, but I didn't mix tape.
Speaker 3:I didn't mix tape mix tape yeah so, but yep, summer walker over, go and check it out, man. Yeah, good R&B from the new generation man.
Speaker 1:Did you y'all ask the question I usually ask?
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 1:So yeah, have you heard all of her projects?
Speaker 3:I believe I have so where's over it? I want to say it's either one or two for me, I think out of our catalog yeah, I like that album.
Speaker 1:I really do. What would be a contention for?
Speaker 3:because I feel like the first project, the mixtape I do think had some that's the last day of summer y'all was talking about yeah, cause, okay, yeah, cause the last day of summer had some real like almost neo soul.
Speaker 3:You know I'm saying not only because you know we know summer can do like mainstream r&b stuff, but uh, there was some there's some records on that first project that was like, um, yeah, just had some real smooth. You know what I mean and I could appreciate that because I'm like you know, I just felt R&B was already kind of struggling. You know, these 2010s have just really been interesting. Yeah, it's completely fucked up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so 2010s.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. Well, I feel like mid-2010s is when it kind of got a little fuzzy, but but yeah, I can appreciate you know.
Speaker 1:I always say early yeah, that's when I started saying yeah R&B.
Speaker 3:I just feel after really I feel like after Trey Songz's Trigger album dropped, like that's when to me me at least that was kind of the turning point, you know. But um, yeah, some, walk over it. It was refreshing just to hear the um sound Right, well, cool, um, let me see. Do we have a special guest? Uh, icy, oh, we got a special guest. Icy Queens, would you like to say hello To the podcast? Why would you do that?
Speaker 1:You gonna talk or you gonna cough what we doing, so Icy Gay.
Speaker 3:What yeah, we got, we got. Go ahead and introduce yourself, man. The people can't see you. So you know, go ahead and introduce yourself, man. The people can't see you.
Speaker 4:So you know, go ahead and um yeah, you are so childish, that's very childish.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's Tiana, Hi Tiana. What's up?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so all right. Since she doesn't want to introduce herself, icy Queen's uh, princess Tiana has checked into the building. Man.
Speaker 1:I can just always tell by the voice Tiana sounds like the mama, lex sounds like the child, really so.
Speaker 3:but yeah, icy Queen Tiana, is there anything you would like to share to the good people on our podcast? So Icy Gang go follow us on Instagram.
Speaker 1:Type shit.
Speaker 3:Do you want to say y'all Instagram at?
Speaker 4:Yeah, hey, I'm at work. It's Icy. Underscore Queens with a Z-S-T.
Speaker 3:And where are you representing Tanago? Where? Are you representing.
Speaker 1:Tanago, where you representing from, I went 12 years old, trapping my own mama. You said what about a mama? What you saying what. She just want me to talk shit.
Speaker 3:I know right, she, just she just sitting herself, shit. I know right, she just she just sitting herself up. You know what I'm saying. Them May Geminis.
Speaker 1:M for maniac. We the best. Stand on that. I ain't even gonna argue with you.
Speaker 3:But yeah, where you representing ma'am.
Speaker 1:Bro, this answer Alabama.
Speaker 3:Alright, thank you.
Speaker 1:Roll Tide.
Speaker 3:Look, man. And so yeah, salute to the Icy Queens man. They be holding it down for Alabama. You dig, they know how to do that. Trail ride, country line dancing. If you ain't know, so tap in with them folk. They be out there stepping it some crazy and got all the routines out there with slow walk, slow set, you dig. So tap in with them folk. You already know what's going. Sexy, desi, unthinkable Lexi, co, suzy, yim. So yeah, anything else you'd like to add?
Speaker 1:Well, it sounds like she's trying to run away. It sounds like she wants you to stop talking.
Speaker 3:I was never supposed to be talking on this podcast. Okay, my fault, all right. Well, yeah, little cameo right there. All right then.
Speaker 1:I hope the mic picked that up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hopefully it picked it up.
Speaker 1:Do I know? No, you don't know Tiana. Yeah, you don't know Tiana. Yeah 20, you don't be around, alright.
Speaker 3:Big 2-0.
Speaker 1:As y'all are pouring up, we're going to get into we got one more, yeah, we got one more. And then we're gonna. Well, we go, yeah, we got one more. Then we're gonna get into 20's topic. We got a dj talk um oh, my fault.
Speaker 3:I'm over here jumping the gun oh, y'all good no, go ahead, go ahead, dj talk.
Speaker 4:So 20, all right I know it's been a goddamn. Yeah, I was about to say this man trying to have me so 20.
Speaker 1:All right, I know it's been a goddamn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was about to say this man trying to have me leaning out there. Man, yeah, like you want to bail out Monday?
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying Whoa, whoa, whoa, chill out Chill out, turn up, chill out.
Speaker 3:Don't get crazy out here Talking about bail out Monday, young'un, that man leaning? I would not, bro, that man was leaning, I was just cooling, bro Boy. You got to say that let's go, corey, all right. So Just cooling like four ice cubes and a styrofoam cup. You dig what I'm saying Exactly. Leaning like you too.
Speaker 1:But anyway, so 20. So what we got is these old DJ Talk questions and, just like the last time, we're just gonna have you answer them. We got five of them, okay, so let's start with number one. So we're gonna get into this dj talk tonight. I got a question for you. What's?
Speaker 3:that now with it.
Speaker 1:I kind of figure what side you, what side you're on, but there are two type of djs in this world, right, the djs that actually you know have the mixing and transitions and all that stuff. And then there are djs that kind of just kind of just play for the crowd per se and don't really do any mixing or transition and just kind of like host. They're kind of like, they kind of just host, they kind of just like no mixing, just dropping records.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like talking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're talking for a little bit and then they'll like, they'll uh, they'll get the crowd's attention. And you know, and it's like from back in blood to before I let go. So 20, I like like I tell tanaka, I kind of figure what side you're on, but how do you feel about those DJs that don't necessarily do the mixing and transitioning. They just kind of host and drop songs from tempos to tempos they just dropping that ish man playing all the hits playing all the hits exactly going from.
Speaker 1:Young Dolph Preach to Not Like Us no care for BPM whatsoever.
Speaker 3:Your thoughts, sir?
Speaker 2:yeah, man, I mean, there's an art to you, know I mean if it like it works for them.
Speaker 2:You know, for some of them they got there doing that, so it works for them. Me personally, um, I like, uh, I like you people, I like DJs who are able to mix and can actually carry the party through without having to break the you know, the energy of you know, or the flow. You know you're supposed to be telling the story. That's kind of how I see it, you know, because us, as DJs, we're artists as well. So I mean it's like going from chapter one to chapter five Us, as DJs, we're artists as well it's like going from chapter one to chapter five, then from chapter five to chapter three.
Speaker 3:We tend to like to take you on a journey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely take you on a journey.
Speaker 3:We want the ride to be smooth, not just bumper cars out here.
Speaker 1:Right, right, like when 20 first pulled into Cedarview for the first time. Remember that Dude Killed his, destroyed my O2 sensor.
Speaker 2:That joint said dude, dude, dude, dude. I said whoa Destroyed the O2 sensor.
Speaker 1:Oh, that joint was so funny. All right. Question number two so this is going to be an interesting DJ talk, because this isn't really like a question and this isn't really like an etiquette, but this one goes out to all the younger DJs. All the younger DJs coming up in the DJ game or hell, even if you feel like you want to be a DJ this goes for anybody. That's like I said, young DJ, or even think about, even if there's a thought in your mind that you want to become a DJ.
Speaker 1:What I recommend that you do, before you do anything else, is make sure that you soak up the music that you that is coming out now, anything that's coming out now, or hell, even something that you could think of that came out and you just like it, throw it in a playlist. All right, 20. So here's the situation, right? So, um, my little tidbit was that, um, younger djs should, uh, soak up all the music that comes out. You don't have to even per se like play it at that moment, but just soaking up all the music that came out in your generation. So, once you guys are once, once they're older, they, they have that music that they can go back to and be like oh shit, it may have not have charted, and so it may have. It may have disappeared from the internet, so so it might not be there forever. What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:Definitely you want to make sure your library you don't know who like, you don't know what situation you're ever going to come across, you don't know who like where that song will come in handy, like there, you know, back in my A-Day you know what I mean there was a popular us being skating rink DJs. You know what I mean? Well, djs in its purest form, but skating rinks we do a lot of those. A little bit more specific, you know this is back when I would just search up different house remixes, just different songs, and you know I would just search up different house remixes, just different songs. And one of those songs that I became famous for no one else had and that's just simply off of, and that was a song that was very popular and very known. It was a signature.
Speaker 2:People came up to me and they would be upset when I didn't, Because I would end the session with that song and they would be upset when I didn't end the session with that song. So that just goes to show like you know what I mean, you never know like what song that where, when it, when that song would be an impact to people. So definitely soak up as much music as you can I don't know what to not laugh.
Speaker 1:What just, yeah, what just did? I did something happen where my computer is that I did like missed it. What just happened?
Speaker 3:I just had a funny thought in my mind, you like share the class I don't know okay, sure well, all right, so wait, the signature song was. She says she wants some you are petty as hell oh, you are petty as hell, oh, you are petty.
Speaker 4:You are pettier than I thought bro, I thought you were about to say detroit girl like no, that's great bro, that's petty that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's petty, that's pretty petty. You asked him what I was thinking. That's the thought that popped in my mind and that's my bad I, I will never ask that ever again.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I was trying to move on in my defense too, but I mean, I guess anyway, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's crazy dog but, but yeah, no, it's a no, it's a further on that question, though. It's like we, as djs, were historians. You know I'm saying so like sometimes, as you said, turn up, the music gets erased from the internet, and it's like only the people that was there at the time had the music. You know, I'm saying like. So really, we're like, um, like, we document periods of music in different time periods.
Speaker 1:That gets erased from the internet right, because we live in the internet, internet internet based world and they feel like I feel like certain people think that if it's not on the internet, it didn't happen, and you know very much so yeah, anyway, number three.
Speaker 1:So, tanaka, this goes back to the um, kind of goes back to the dj unk situation. Um, but you know, quick scenario. You're the DJ. The guy comes up to you hey, insert name here. Artist is here, he said he'll perform one song. The song is up to you. What song are you choosing? Just give you some names of some people and just tell me what song are you choosing for them to that they're performing. If you want to give a, why you can, if not, whatever, all right. So, tony, what's about to happen is I thought of two artists, tanaka has thought of two artists and we're giving you that scenario. So you're djing at hell. Then you gotta be a club. It could be wherever. Whatever scenario you want to come up with, the promoter or somebody comes up to you and is like hey, this artist is in the building and he said he will perform one song and the song is to your choice. What song are you choosing, tanaka?
Speaker 3:Malik. So we're gonna name the artist and you're gonna tell us the song that you're gonna play for them To perform Tanaka, i'ma let you. So we're gonna name the artists and you're gonna tell us the song that you're gonna play for them. Okay To perform.
Speaker 1:You have. Tanaka has two. I have two. I'ma let Tanaka start off, saha the Prince. Dj 20 Saha. The so Saha. The Prince is here. He said that he would perform. He said he'd perform one song, but he said he said he really didn. Is here. He said that he would perform. He said he'd perform one song, but he said he really didn't care. He said he's going to leave it up to you. What song is he going to let him perform?
Speaker 2:Saha the Prince, saha the Prince I'd probably. Just random pick.
Speaker 1:I probably like just random pick do you have any Sire of the Prince songs? It's a better question.
Speaker 2:A better question is name a Sire of the Prince song yeah, I don't know Sire of the Prince, like that, but if he was there in the building okay, so that's another scenario.
Speaker 3:So you don't know. So you said you were unfamiliar with his music. How are you going to go about? Yeah, what?
Speaker 1:do you do in that situation? You don't have any of his music, you don't know him. What's your next thing? I mean, what's your next move?
Speaker 2:Find a song. Probably what I would do is like how I told you how I um how I do my homework go to youtube, um or spot by the way, this is in the middle of a gig, by the way, so like this okay, okay, okay, for sure, yeah go to youtube or, um, you know, spotify or apple music, whichever Apple Music, whichever, whichever platform. Find out which one has the most engagement, the most traffic, and choose that one.
Speaker 1:You know it's crazy, shout out to you. I actually meant to give you a roses for that, but I kind of forgot what your number was. I remember you said that you do this thing where you, if a song has a certain, certain amount of views, that's when you know you're gonna pick that song. I forgot what number you said it was, though it was. It was definitely a youtube situation, though, but you were saying that yeah, youtube anything, anything like in the triple digits.
Speaker 2:I know that that's so in the honey case.
Speaker 1:It's a honey k up. No, no, no, he's talking a million, hundred million. Okay, I know that I'm saying you 100Ks, so 100K up.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no, no. He's talking a million, 100 million. I know that.
Speaker 1:I'm saying you got to be specific.
Speaker 2:I don't know, yeah, 100 million, 100 million or sometimes it doesn't even have to be 100 million, but you just know, there's just a number where you're just like, okay, people know this song and 100 million is a safe one, um, anything close to that. So like I'd say anything above 50 million, like that's a safe bet that people know it so what's the lowest that I would play?
Speaker 1:that you would, that you would be like that you would be definite to still be like, yeah, I'm gonna play this. This may be this low, but I'm gonna still play it okay.
Speaker 2:So now, like that's where, that's where the homework comes into right. So now, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm given and let's take, for example, an Atlanta artist, because we're in Atlanta- I'm saying so high. So let me say, it comes in and you're like, if my what I like, what I really like, is two to five million, I really want there to be some type of traffic or engagement. Two to five million um, that's probably where I know I'll play it. Um, anything below that, it's it's a bit sketchy okay.
Speaker 1:So let's just, let's just throw out a quick hypothetical um and this is.
Speaker 3:I mean. I know that you do this for all music, but this was when you was looking up like Afrobeat records, right?
Speaker 2:No, this was anything. Anything else I want to say at the time you were doing like Latin when I was talking to you. Latin for sure. I knew it was a popular song when it started. That's the triple digits Plus. When I started seeing that B I said, yeah, this is one of those songs that like this is bigger than America.
Speaker 3:What was it Start seeing?
Speaker 2:Oh, B Billions my bad On YouTube. That's when I knew that song is a hit internationally, Right. I feel that that song is a hit internationally Right.
Speaker 1:I feel that. So let's go back to Saha. So hypothetically, saha is only touching a million, so are you just picking the song that has the most views?
Speaker 2:That's probably where I would lean. I would pick that one Because that one has the most engagement. That's probably his biggest hit. That's probably his most famous song so what song are we playing?
Speaker 1:turn up so, and that's where it gets sketchy. You would just have to make sure that the thing about that you could show the 20, which one?
Speaker 1:so so. So that's the thing, though. Well, that's the thing, though. The thing about that is that one of his biggest songs it's not his biggest song, but one of his biggest songs is the Morning. But if you choose the Morning, that means you actually have to listen and he's on the last verse, or he's in the middle to last verse. There's five people on the song and you're like, oh shit, damn, I don't really know this song like that. So that's another thing to take into context.
Speaker 2:But if I'm in the middle of a gig and that's happening, I would I would definitely try to do my best right to make sure he is um, like it's him and it's one of his.
Speaker 1:You know bigger, better songs, right oh, okay, I guess I'm doing one of mine, since you walked away um hey 20. So we're um hey. So, uh, kelvin, kelvin, momo has just walked in the building um he said he'll do one song and he said he's leaving it up to you you said kelvin momo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you said Kelvin Momo. Yeah, all right, so let's put this into play.
Speaker 1:Let's put this into context yeah, music going, djing yeah, he said he'll do any song.
Speaker 2:All right, alright.
Speaker 2:so if I look up, so I'm assuming this is another person you don't know no, I don't know Calvin Momo, but if we look up Calvin Momo on YouTube, alright, 299k subscribers. Okay, why am I only seeing albums? Okay, so one of his songs has 10 million views. I'll look at that one and I'll be like, okay, that's a safe, that's a safe bet. 2.7, huh, I could get away with the 7.5. So right now, as I'm looking through it, 10 million is the one that 10 million is the number to beat. 10 million would be the song I would play.
Speaker 1:And that song is Song is song is oh, he has a 9.5 on here, but two million. I might add this to my playlist, okay, oh, yeah, have to add that to my African. That's that MO Piano? That's MO Piano, right, is that MO Piano?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can consider that.
Speaker 1:Alright Tanaka Next artist.
Speaker 3:We got Summer Walker in the button what up.
Speaker 2:Alright, alright. So this one, this one's actually a hard one For me, um Cause. It would either be Come Through, which Is probably my favorite song On the On the project, or girls need love.
Speaker 1:I was straight away from me personally. I was straight away from any songs that have features if they're just me personally, not saying it's wrong or not. Um, and was actually interesting, tanaka, that you picked summer walker. Is that, um, summer walker? Well, I don't know if you were there for when that happened, but t smooth, shout out t smooth. He had brought summer walker to bail out monday.
Speaker 2:Yeah I remember seeing and it was fun.
Speaker 1:And it was funny because, like she's, like like that scenario sounds wild because, bro, she doesn't even like hearing her music. Like she has a high level. She has high level of anxiety. Like she does not like hearing her music that's not.
Speaker 2:That's not a first.
Speaker 1:I've heard that a lot oh yeah, no, it does, but like she's like, so no, just to put in perspective, like she doesn't even like here, so let alone perform. It sounds crazy to me.
Speaker 2:That's just yeah, yeah, that's, that's a crazy content.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. But um, yeah, no, but anyway, um, all right. So last one uh, hey, 20, so, um, so you see this big crowd over here. Apparently, in the middle of all that, um, I was just told that bad bunny is here. So, um, he said that he would possibly do one song. Oh, and he's. I guess he doesn't really care because he's not really getting paid for it and he's gonna leave it up to you. He said he may just do a verse or something. What?
Speaker 2:oh, verse mia. That's the song that I want to hear from bad Bunny, and that's just because I'm a Bad Bunny fan. Well, I'm a yeah, I'm a Bad Bunny fan. I like Bad Bunny and yeah, that song has a future with Drake. But because he's only doing a verse, or not?
Speaker 1:Right, right, I hear that. All right, cool, that was fun. All right, number four this is going to be the first time we've done like a dj etiquette since like episode one right, so this situation that happened that has happened to many of us where a customer will come up and be like hey, tanaka, can you either play this, do this, can you play this, do this Can you move?
Speaker 1:this Something. They're making an order and you're like, nah, I don't want to, I can't Something, something along the lines of they cannot do it and you're not going to get your order. And they say this thing that I know irks a good 90%. It irks a good 90%, it irks a good 90% of DJs, but DJ Other Person does it. I'm not DJ Other Person. Tanaka, how does that make you feel DJ 20,? How does that make you feelj 20?
Speaker 2:how does that make you feel I'm not dj other person? Simple as that. I'm not dj other person, so who's that? Who was that?
Speaker 1:um, that was actually abraham.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you remember abraham yeah, yeah, I remember, I remember, yeah, it was cool, shout, shout out Abraham.
Speaker 1:He pulled up on me at Metro Diner yesterday. Really, yeah, shout out Abraham. Yeah, but no man, I ain't gonna lie that joint hurts my soul.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not a DJ of the person.
Speaker 1:Plain and simple.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go to a DJ of the person's session.
Speaker 1:All right, boy, talk about it. Yeah, all right, right, boy talk about yeah, all right, number five. So, tanaka, question your fans, customers or the people that like come to your events or your sets, or whatever the case may be, when is the best time for them to have conversation with you about? Like music, about music, Mm-hmm, so DJ20, when is a good time for, uh, people to hit you up about, like I don't know type of music that they like or I don't know, like a song request they may have that they may want you to? They may know that you're gonna be at a certain place and they're like, hey, I'm gonna be here too. Could you play blah blah? For reasons I don, reasons I don't know, or is it just better for them to just be there and just be like, hey, can you play this? No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2:No no, no, no no, I've gotten to a point where eight times out of ten because here's the thing I've got to do my homework on the song, which includes making sure that it's clean. Right.
Speaker 2:If you hit me up at the and it's not a main like at the event and it's not a mainstream song that I know I will have clean 10 times out of 10, I'm not playing it. But the best time to hit me up about it and talk to me about it is for you to hit me up maybe a day or two prior so I could do some research and then I'll let you know if I'm able to get that music played and I don't mind taking requests, but it's got to make sense, and I got to be, you know, get it done.
Speaker 2:shout out to the ys, shout out to the ys.
Speaker 1:I don't know what the fuck is going on right now, but, um, all right. Well, dj 20. It is now. Well, this is what we usually call open topic. However, dj 20 is here, so it's called 20's Topics. So, dj 20, the floor is yours.
Speaker 2:Alright, 20's Topics. I don't know, tanaka, do you need a refill Because? This is going to be a fun. This is going to be a fun, you know.
Speaker 3:This man trying to have me out here slithered man. This is going to be a fun, you know. This man trying to have me out here slizzard man.
Speaker 2:This is going to be a fun hour. Good lord, it's probably going to be an hour for real, alright. So, um, before I get into the controversial takes, you know what I mean. And um, so 20s Topics is real short today, but it's going to be a long. No, it ain't.
Speaker 1:It's going to be 20s Topic.
Speaker 2:No, we got two. I wanted to add one because me and my guy Frank, shout out Frank. We've been having this discussion on what is pop music, so I want to hear you guys's opinion on what pop music is, and then I'll tell you his opinion on pop music oh, so we're doing that right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what is pop music? So, um, how would you like.
Speaker 2:Is it a category? Is it stature? What is it?
Speaker 1:so is see, that's the thing about pop music. Pop music is interesting because it just really depends on how you look at it. Well, we think of pop music, we think of I don't know, we think of white people music that isn't rock or country music. That's what we think of pop music. However, if you really deep dive into pop music, pop is short for popular and that's all pop is. And that's why, when people say a rapper has gone pop, they're saying that he's just got out the mud and he's now in the limelights. And now his music is not just for streets, it's for the suburbs, it's for the country bunkins, it's for the you know, people in outer space, I don't know undersea, it's for everybody, it's pop, it's popular.
Speaker 2:So that's that's my two perceptions of pop music okay, so would you um, just uh, so I can get a clear, a clear um answer. So it's not a. Would you consider it a genre or stature?
Speaker 1:It just depends on how you look at it. So I could see it could be both, because I could see somebody saying, um, what's them niggas name chain smokers, I think, is their name I could see them being like pop. But at the same time I could see if somebody were to call Glorilla's what you Know About Me pop as well, because that's a song that has made it from successfully yeah, it successfully crossed over from just the streets and the white people want to hear it. Or TGIF, that type of shit.
Speaker 2:I think it can be considered pop okay, um so okay, final, final question three little birds by bob marley well, oh, I don't know that song, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's gonna be all right, all right, so would you consider that pop?
Speaker 2:or would that just be considered reggae, because everybody's heard that song?
Speaker 1:that's a very popular true, but has it been successful financially? It might be like a what? What people call a street classic, and I don't, I don't really. Okay, well, hold on, let me see three little birds by bob marley and the roilers. Let's see, uh yeah, this I could say this is pop. I could say I could put this up in pop okay um. Technically I can so I mean and it also, and it also.
Speaker 1:It also depends on what you mean by what is considered pop. You learn Because it's gone gold in Brazil, gold in Denmark, gold in Germany, platinum in Italy, five times platinum in New Zealand, platinum in Spain and three times platinum in the UK Sounds pretty successful to me. Okay, Germany is charted in Germany, Spain and the UK as well. But yeah, I guess you can. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:Same question to you, Tanaka.
Speaker 3:I mean, my answer is Summa Eterna, because I get there's artists that are like pop artists, so like the music they make is geared towards, like that audience. But then at the same time, of course, we got like hip-hop stuff that grew out the you know out the streets, that then turned pop because of how big the song became, to the point that you know I'm saying that vanilla over there eating it up.
Speaker 3:yeah, so so for you it's more of a stature and not any more of a genre um, I mean, like I said, I feel like it's both, because I I do feel like there's artists that are pop artists and they, like that's the genre of music they make. It's aimed towards making like.
Speaker 1:And also to piggyback off that I feel like there are pop artists that aren't successful. Yeah, so like it's. I don't know, that's weird. That's a weird like double entendre type shit. Like, just because pop is supposed to be popular but you make pop music and it ain't successful, so like that's, that's a weird thing. So it technically could be a stature. I could see it leaning more towards a stature because there could be a genre of hip-hop and then there's pop and then there's like the pop, hip-hop, I guess, or hip-hop, right that they call it. Do they have? Do they have a name for um reggae like, is there like a pop?
Speaker 2:reggae. It's just, it's just um.
Speaker 1:It's just reggae because dancehall, because here's the thing, though so like I know in I know in certain like areas of music there are like surface love, there's like surface level stuff that like only us would know. But it's only but it's because it's so pop but it's cliche because it's pop. It's like we know it, like with reggae or dancehall. I would know murder she wrote, but for you that's, that's literally what no, you struck a nerve with that one, because that was literally the song that I was telling him.
Speaker 1:I mean, and that's okay and that's cool, but yeah, so like with, but it's still dancehall. Yes, it's dancehall, but it's, it's, that's cool, but yeah, so like with, but it's still dancehall. Yeah, it's dancehall, but it's like that's like the surface level stuff, but it's I don't okay. But that's another thing too. I don't know how, I don't know how successful that song was, but I just know for me that would be. I would think that would be like the surface level, and we don't necessarily call it pop, but that's like the surface level stuff which is that everybody knows which is basically pop like if you play murder.
Speaker 1:She wrote for white people.
Speaker 2:I feel like you could throw it in there with like sorry, justin bieber, okay see now, okay, now here's, here's, um, I'm gonna, we're gonna draw a larger point because essentially I do agree with um, his his overall messaging. However, me personally, I do feel like there is a distinction, because I do feel like there's a difference between pop like I fit. Me personally, I consider pop as a genre of music more so than a stature, right, because? Okay, now let me ask you this, right, uh, super bass, what would you consider that? Um, hip-hop? You would consider that hip-hop, hip-pop, hip-hop yeah, that's the actual genre.
Speaker 1:That's what I was saying. So, like it started out, it started out as well. It started out as hip-hop, but it's our. It's also a successful song too. So I don't know. It's, I don't know. I guess pop has pop. That's what's weird about the music business.
Speaker 2:It's see, because like, honestly and truthfully, like I would have said, okay, well, I wouldn't have added the hip in front of pop, I would have just said that that's pop, but now when? Because these were the two songs that got debated with me at least yesterday. So there's Super Bass and then there's Moment for Life.
Speaker 1:What would you consider Moment for Life. That's interesting, that's an interesting perspective.
Speaker 2:Because the delivery on both songs it's the same artist. The delivery on both songs it's the same artist. The delivery on both songs is different I mean just the.
Speaker 1:But pop is also feeling too. I don't know. I feel like I feel like moment for life kind of blurs. Those lines of it could be hip-hop, but at the same time like you could slide that in with uh, with uh like a justin bie or something, because it's just the feel. I feel like the feel of the song is like, even though the lyrics could be a little raunchy in comparison to Taylor Swift or Megan Trainor, it's still the feel of the song. Yeah. Okay, go ahead, my bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I mean Tanaka Asking about those two songs. What would you consider super bass? And then, what would you consider moment for life?
Speaker 3:I mean, if I'm being completely honest, I really looked at that first album by Nicki Minaj is mainly more like pop than hip hop. You know what I'm saying, if I'm being honest. So for those two records like he feels like like, yeah, they can pass as hip-hop, but I feel like they're more pop than hip-hop in my opinion especially I'm saying I would think no, super bass, and this is where I probably disagree with you guys.
Speaker 2:Super bass, I see, because the definition that I was given when it came to pop, or that I always understood when it came to pop, is a catchy tune, right and um, to me like every sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I don't mean to cut you off.
Speaker 1:Where, where did you get? Where'd you get that from? Who told you that that is a catchy?
Speaker 2:that was that, yeah that was in school when I um music class or whatever, and what I saw on um what we looked up on google okay so when I looked it up, when I saw catchy tune, I was like, yeah, that's pop, the catchy tune like that's for me when I consider a genre of music. That's how I separate the two, right so, moment for life and super bass. The delivery is different but it's given by the same artist. So I'll ask you guys another one right so, break of dawn and thriller. What would you consider those two? Because those two are also another point of debate.
Speaker 1:Well, break of Dawn is definitely R&B, because, well, it's R&B. But it also wasn't. That's my point, but that's, but that's, I mean, but even though Michael is the king of pop, but but at the same time you kind of I don't know You're kind of like putting like artists in the same time. I don't know, y'all kind of putting artists in one genre. You know more.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not saying. I'm not putting him in a genre. All I'm saying is one artist can make two genres of music. Yeah, and I consider pop to be a different genre of music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, you could say that, yeah, I would say that, but the um, you kind of explained it.
Speaker 2:Your definition it was more so of like a stature. So pretty much, if it makes it to a certain level, to the point where people in china are singing the song, then it's now considered pop.
Speaker 1:It's successfully crossed over I mean not now consider pop. It's still considered what it what it started as, but it's, it's now. It's now in that level of pop music. That's, that's just how I, just how I see it, I mean tamaka yeah, I mean, that's that's what I feel like.
Speaker 3:You know, because if I think about like, like drop it, like it's hot, I consider that a hip hop song. But it became so popular that you could consider that pop music. You know what I'm saying. But I still consider that a hip hop song. When I listen to something like Super Bass, I don't necessarily consider that really a hip-hop song, like yeah, she's rapping, but I consider it more of a pop song. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Because, it's catchy. So yeah, I don't know if that answers your question. No, no, it does, it's a catchy tune.
Speaker 2:That was my main thing, but to him it's more so like a stature. So now that brings it to you know my next point, or segue. So not like us all right would? Would we consider that pop, being that it just got performed on the biggest stage and now everybody knows that song?
Speaker 1:I mean, that's not why everybody knows that song. But no, I mean, yeah, that's definitely pop you consider that pop? I mean it's hip-hop, definitely, bro, it's rap beef, it's beef like that's, that's some hip-hop shit. But yeah, it's pop, because everybody, I feel like they're okay. So I'll say this I feel like Pop and I hope this makes sense before I put this on fucking every platform.
Speaker 1:But I feel like Pop, there's like different doors of Pop, like it's like okay, you get in because you're just already Pop, you're just off the rip, you're Pop. Some people have to work to get to that other door.
Speaker 2:And that was the biggest point of that. That whole thing was like he was pretty much saying that is racism. Right, when it comes to, when it comes to pop, because, like, even when, because the only thing that's different is that because they're a white person, they would be considered pop versus a black person. There's something else, there are B or their hip hop, or there's something else or any other genre. Like Koreans, it's considered K-pop versus you know them, just being regular pop pop music.
Speaker 1:I mean maybe, possibly, but I mean even I don't know because okay. So I mean, if we're bringing up the race thing, do we? Do?
Speaker 2:we call shibuzi r&b no, we call them country, and then we would give them pop but I feel like it's because it's a.
Speaker 1:I mean it's a feel like the feel of the music doesn't feel like r&b, I feel like he's country music.
Speaker 2:No, that's what I said. He's country.
Speaker 1:I mean you said pop, but yeah, no, but he's also considered pop as well. I mean I would consider the bar song pop. I wouldn't really consider him pop because he only has that one song. I mean, I only know that one song. He may have other songs, I don't know, but yeah, I would consider him just pop. I mean just country music um tanaka oh so okay.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you this are you saying, because he started out, since he started out and he was black, he's not going to be able to start out as pop music?
Speaker 2:pretty much, yeah. So you pretty much have to work to get your way to pop To pop, because in the way that my guy Frank.
Speaker 1:There's some truth to that Stature no.
Speaker 2:Because if you're looking at it as far as stature, yes, but versus when it comes to someone like a Justin Bieber, anything he releases, it's automatically pop.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I mean you're not wrong.
Speaker 2:When you're looking at it as far as stature, yes, very much so. Racism but me how I look at it as a genre of music. It doesn't matter if you're black or white.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but at the same time there is some truth to like, if you start out as an artist, there is some slight racism in, like, okay, you're black, so you're singing. You're black, oh, and you sing, oh, and the beat is so you must be r&b or new jack swing, yeah, or anything else, that's not like, oh, you're white, you sing, oh, you must be pop.
Speaker 1:I mean I could see that. I mean I could see that, but like um at the same time. Um, I was going to bring up the point of Jason Derulo, but he didn't start out as pop, he started out as R&B. That, what you say, was an R&B song and then, like, it blew up and then he's just been in pop ever since. I think is how it went. Same thing with Flo Rida he was a rapper, he was a rap rapper. He got Lil Wayne on his first album, on some shit, and then anything after that was kind of pop. Same thing with Pitbull.
Speaker 2:He was a real street rapper. He would come out with Latin songs.
Speaker 1:And after that he just went pop, he just went pop yeah.
Speaker 2:And then you could kind of consider bad money, pop Bad money. You know what I mean, you of consider bad money, pop bad. But I mean, yeah, you can, you can consider bad money. Oh, yeah, bad money, yeah, no, you can consider shakira, yeah, he's very yeah you can consider those, they're very they're very successful, for sure so that's, that's where it goes. Which um? But, yeah, like, and now you can start to consider Kendrick pop.
Speaker 1:I mean, I wouldn't say Kendrick Lamar as a pop artist, I would just say some of his music could be labeled as pop music because it's successful.
Speaker 2:I would say. I would say Not Like Us is pop, because that is a song that let's be honest nobody like you know what I mean. Nobody outside of Kendrick fans like and I'm talking about in America specifically knew Kendrick before that night like a Not Like Us song Because of Drake.
Speaker 1:Would that be for Drake? That's boy, that's that's boy. That's some words you saying right there boy.
Speaker 2:No, no, it wasn't he, he wasn't, he wasn't lighting it up like that before before, before, not like us oh okay, I mean I'm not saying that, I guess it's your perception, I guess, but but I mean the thing.
Speaker 1:Okay, so here's the thing, here's the thing about, well honestly here's the thing about life right, and folks have this perception that life and success is supposed to go one way, and that's it, and that's all. The thing that I see with Kendrick is Kendrick wants to just do shit his way. And if he wants to do it, and he just wants to do shit his way, and if he wants to do and he just wants to do shit his way, and it just so happens, he just so happens to be the best fucking artist in the world right now, right now, and he has perception on life and he perceives it the way that he does and through the way that he shows his art.
Speaker 2:But that's what I'm saying. So for you to say that he shows his art.
Speaker 1:But that's what I'm saying. So for you to say that he's like I don't know his success.
Speaker 2:Well, okay. So, his popularity, I would say wasn't a thing. Well, I wouldn't say it was as big a thing until.
Speaker 3:Tread lightly 20.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it wasn't a thing, it wasn't a big thing, cause granted, until he dissed Drake.
Speaker 3:Cause I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2:Most of these artists they have to diss Drake or they have to collab With Drake, to you know.
Speaker 3:But no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing. Here's the thing, here's the thing.
Speaker 3:I literally just had this conversation with a fellow delinquent named DJ Sonic oh, I'm hater number one cause. What I'm getting, what I'm feeling, like you trying to get at, is you're saying that Kendrick wouldn't have the success he had without Drake. Is that what point you were getting at, right here?
Speaker 1:I would say that I would disagree with that. If that's what you're saying, I would say I would disagree with that.
Speaker 2:He wouldn't be at the level he's at today, if it wasn't yes. I'm going to disagree with that, without Drake, he does not have not like us and he's not. Yes, I'm going to, I'm going to disagree with that. Okay, without Drake, he does not have not like us.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, had it. If you're gonna just base it off of just drake, that's kind of that's kind of fucked up, no, not, and here and here's, but here's the thing I base it off of. Yes, it might have been because he picked up. He picked up this beef with drake and all that stuff. Yeah, that may have been the fire to the flame or whatever, but y'all also gotta put, uh, give it to his ability as well, his ability to put a song together and make it as, make it as you know, as what is it? What is it related? What did Joss okay, bring up Joss Point? What was Joss Point About? Not Like Us you were telling me about? It's not even about the, it's not even about the disc. It's not even about the disc anymore.
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 1:It's more than no. No, no, it's bigger than the disc.
Speaker 3:Yeah it's not. It's not just about no, no, no, but it was, it was, yeah. The point he was making it's the fact that the reason the song is so detrimental like to Drake and just everything is because the song is now simply, it's like a. It's something everyone can relate to, whether it's like a sports team, a small town. They not like us, like we're different from them. You know, I'm saying like it's such a simple concept that every like even different communities can relate to that. You know, I'm saying because they're not like us, so it's become like a chant and almost like a. You know, I'm saying because they're not like us, so it's become like a chant and almost like a. You know, I'm saying like an anthem for them. You know, alongside the fact that he's dissing drake so okay.
Speaker 1:So, with all that being said, are you saying that had drop and give me 50 and family matters been successful? We would be saying we would be thanking he. Drake would need to thank kendrick for where he's at no, because Drake had already. Drake is already at a level that. Kendrick, and Kendrick wasn't at that level no, so you're telling me Drake.
Speaker 2:As far as popularity, you know what I mean. Drake and Kendrick are on the same level that's why I can, but that's the thing.
Speaker 1:That's why.
Speaker 1:I feel, but that's what I'm saying. That's what. That's your misunderstanding. Drake is a pop artist. Kendrick is a rapper. But here's the thing, and this is why this is where he this is. This is where drake fucked up. He tried to he, he got big-headed and he had these discs where everybody else and he was untouchable and got touched. That was, that was the. I'm not saying. I'm not saying that kendrick can put out a club song, or he could put out a latin song, or he can come up with the greatest melodies of all time. Kendrick is a rapper at at heart. Kendrick is a rapper and he has symbolism and everything, and it just so happened that he was able to come out with Not Like Us and that shit exploded.
Speaker 2:Here's what my difference is when it came to, because this is not the first time Kendrick has dissed a rapper. It's not the first time he's dissed Drake.
Speaker 3:Well, let's get it clear, man, let's get this clear, okay. Okay, did Kendrick diss, drake and them? All he said was that he's the best. He said f the big three, it's only big me I'm the best. That's basically what he's saying. He didn't.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm saying like he's just and and that's that's what I get frustrated on, because everyone wants to say kendrick's always did he, even when he was saying that he wants to like back with the control verse where he's trying to. You know, I'm saying murder all these folks and take all their fans right. It's literally him just challenging people to be the best. You know, I'm saying it's not even, it's not even to me. I don't look at it.
Speaker 3:He's saying it in a hateful way. He's looking at it like competition, like we should all feel like we're the best, because if we're not doing that, then why are we participating in this? You know, I'm saying and that's that's kind of the essence of what hip-hop has always been built on is I'm the best, you're not. I'm gonna show you why. You know, I'm saying and that's that's always elevated the game, because it's it's forced everyone to bring their best in order to be the best. So when I look at this, it's like I've always he. That's one thing about Kendrick. He's always stayed true to that, you know. I'm saying he's always been trying to elevate the game and keep it competitive, because if it doesn't get competitive, that's when folk get lackadaisical and they're not as sharp on their toes with it, you run.
Speaker 3:You run faster when someone's chasing you you know I'm saying, and I feel like that's what every diss, that people perceive it as that's just him trying to challenge the game, for everyone to step their game up, because he wants the best out of you. He doesn't want just you just chilling, he wants the best. And so drake felt like he, he, he felt like he was the best, so he went and challenged.
Speaker 1:You know, cole even felt it too, like and and to piggyback that if he was as big as you say he is Drake, if Drake was as big as you said he was, he wouldn't have responded. If he was that big, if he was really that big, if he was that much bigger than Kendrick Because there's been a lot of people. Let's think about this. Let's put this in perspective too. Right, drake has been on top ever since he started 2009. It's 2024. There's a lot of people that in this drake and drinking say shit. So for him, so for him to be not as big as drake. Yeah, he may not be at the level, because dra covers a lot of ground. Kendrick is just great at kind of one thing Like rap. That's where he's good at. Drake tried to step in his lane and got ran over, but at the same time, if Kendrick is really not as good as everybody says he is, why did he respond? Why did he take time out of his day to respond to Kendrick Lamar?
Speaker 2:But okay, what I don't want y'all to misconstrue is that I'm not saying Kendrick is not a popular artist. What I'm saying is he's a popular artist here before, not Like Us here in the US.
Speaker 1:So the U, so the.
Speaker 2:US has. That's a big market. That's a big market.
Speaker 2:So for you to be, popular here and you did this. Drake where Drake started. Like you know, he's been on top since 2009 and the first market he was able to take over was the US and Canada as well, because he was Canadian. You know what I mean. This is someone. This was an actor on the grassy and then he moved over into the, you know, into the music world. He became an artist and he started off as a rapper, gained his popularity and then he moved. Know, he's been up since and so now you know, ego is still a thing when you're, when you're that big and you know you, you're having people sing your praises.
Speaker 2:Like I was saying, earlier like when it came to meg the stallion. You know you have your hotties, you have your fans. That's telling you you're, you're the greatest, you're the best this, this and that that's not the ones you're paying attention to, the ones you're the greatest, you're the best this, this, and that that's not the ones you're paying attention to. The ones you're paying attention to is the people who are saying Tory's innocent or you have no talent.
Speaker 1:That's perspective.
Speaker 2:Most people.
Speaker 1:But that's perspective. And the only reason why I say that is because, kendrick, well, honestly, once you make it to a certain level and honestly it's not even like drake or kendrick level once you make it to at least even a, b, a, c level, c level, d level, celebrity, you're gonna have people talking shit about you. Hell us as djs. We get motherfuckers talking about us all the time yeah, but it's different.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, you're right, you're right, you're definitely right about that.
Speaker 1:What I'm saying is is but it's all about perspective. Kendrick has a lot of people talking shit about him for many different reasons. Does he respond? No, because it's not. It's not. It's not a part. It's not a part of his plan, of whatever his plan is. Like with certain shit is just like you gotta pick and choose your battles and, honestly, that's not a, that's not a battle. That's not a battle. I feel like he should have took well in a me being a fan. He absolutely should have took it. That's me being selfish. Yes, drake drake definitely should have took it, because he came out, we, we got family matters.
Speaker 1:Drop and give me 50 euphoria. Meet the grams.
Speaker 4:Not like us and honestly and like I, like I tell tanaka and I feel like I said this on other podcasts when I first heard not like us and honestly and like I like I tell tanaka and I feel like I said this on other podcasts when I first heard not like us, I thought that shit was goofy but the thing about it is I have a hope my mind is open enough to see the impact of what it is.
Speaker 1:Not like us is the only song I well okay, I won't say only song, that's one of the only songs I could think of that I got requested in all three different shits that I do Gold Rush somebody came up to me and asked for Not Like Us. At the skating rink, somebody asked for Not Like Us. Metro, fucking diner somebody asked for Not Like Us. Those are three totally different fucking platforms to be DJing at and asking for Not Like Us. The fucking wrestling show someone asked for Not Like Us. And the pre-show not like us. These are four totally different djing things. So I don't really necessarily care for not like us as a song just by itself, but I can. I I have an open mind enough to see the impact that it had it was a bit.
Speaker 2:It's a big song. He, he won. He won five grammys off that song. It's like it's a big song, like it did numbers and I like me personally, um like I said unpopular opinion, but it's just. You know what I mean. Follow me, me personally. The reason why that song was so big was because, like, it was meant to cater to everybody and not just kendrick fans, because I feel like in kendrick songs there's a lot of yes, okay okay, um, you know there's a lot of symbolism.
Speaker 2:he's a lyricist, so much to the point where, um, you, if you're not a kendrick fan, you're not gonna understand it, it's gonna go over your head. And that even happened in the Super Bowl, right, because a lot of people, you know, as you're watching the Super Bowl, they're like man, this shit is whack, right, but it wasn't until and me personally, I was like, you know, I'm not a Kendrick fan, I'm not looking to dissect. You know, especially a Super Bowl, like a halftime show, a Super Bowl halftime show, people come out, they put on a performance and you know, they put on a show and hope you're entertained. That wasn't Kendrick. Kendrick came and he came to send a message right, came and he came to send a message, right. And if, if you're not careful, you think he's sending a message at drake, when he's really sending a message to his people, the us, the country, you know what I mean donald trump, you know like, and and that's, and it's no coincidence because most of his songs are very you know, they have a lot of symbolism. He's a lyricist and things like that. And it's no coincidence because most of the songs are very you know, they have a lot of symbolism. He's a lyricist and things like that, but it's also not a coincidence that, not like us, which is most like, in my opinion his most straightforward, most clear, concise, easy to understand, easy to read song ended up being his biggest song as of yet. Song ended up being his biggest song as of yet, agree or disagree, and that even went for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Me, personally, my criticism of it is that it was too I'm not going to say too symbolic, but it wasn't overt enough in my opinion. For what do you mean by overt? So over right? So, if you're sending a message on that stage, yes, I get the, the sony, um, the x square triangle circle, um, I get the, the red, white and blue, like what I'm.
Speaker 2:My thing is this make it clear, make it clearer for those to see and not have to go back and dissect it because, like I said, me, I had to go back and look twice and understand like, oh, ok, because someone brought out the symbolism. And then that's when I went back and I saw it and I was like, oh, ok, so this was not a performance for like entertainment, this was a performance of sending a message to the masses and now, when you go back and you actually watch the performance, you can appreciate it in that, in that light so let me ask you this, um this, uh, the views on, um, the views on the halftime show and all that stuff does, does kendrick get?
Speaker 1:does kendrick or kendrick's team or any of that, do they get any of that money, or or no? Do y'all know? Do y'all know?
Speaker 2:about that. Typically the halftime performers they don't. I'm not going to say they pay to be on there.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no, no, I know they don't get paid. I know that what I'm asking is for the halftime show. Does when?
Speaker 2:they get views and stuff because I know, on views and YouTube you get paid and all that All so none of that's to kendrick I don't think so no okay, so my, my only, my only the only thing that, well, the only way kendrick and his team benefit is through.
Speaker 1:Like my stream, okay so my only response yeah, because he had a search for streams and all that shit. My only uh comment to that is um kind of equivalent to why. Um kind of equivalent to why I thought young thug was a genius when he makes his music because in a sense everybody calls it mumble, rap and all that stuff. But at the same time, if you really listen to it like you got really listen to it he's actually saying, he's actually saying something, he's actually saying words. But you can't just listen to Young Thug one time and be like, oh yeah, I get what he's saying. No, you gotta listen to him a couple times and by that that point, you done listened to him about ten times and you're like now, he done got ten views off of you. So my thing would've been that, okay, he made all these.
Speaker 1:And that's the thing about Kendrick. Kendrick has always been the type to do something. Go back under his rock and that's just it. So he'll make a point. It's either you see it or you don't, and you go back. He doesn't explain any of it. He doesn't do any interviews, he doesn't do nothing. It's just he puts it out. You like it or love it. Go back to his rock, go back to work, finish this plan. So my thing would have been that he probably did that. So because he knows, bro, we live in a social media world and he has enough fans or enough people that are behind him, that would be like okay. Okay, I'm going to dissect this and I'm going to tell you what Kendrick meant. And he doesn't have to Because he doesn't have to do it.
Speaker 2:He doesn't. I mean me personally. My only criticism is that if you are going to send a message like that, like it would have been so much more powerful you know what I mean. Had you know what I mean, had you know what I mean, the the masses had been able to dissect it right then and there that that wasn't gonna happen and that's not. That's not who kendrick is, and that's not who he is, but and I get that on most scenarios, I do get that, except on that stage.
Speaker 1:Nah, he wasn't that's me, except on that stage.
Speaker 2:I mean because like okay, if this is so much deeper than um rap, if this is so much deeper than the beef, then you have to like at that point, if you're going to say that on that stage, then the message has to be clearer than what it was and we shouldn't have to go to social media and your people to dissect what you actually mean. That's just me. I agree and that's my opinion.
Speaker 1:I agree and that's my opinion yeah, yeah, he probably doing like song today, probably not paying attention to words.
Speaker 2:You said yeah it's between me and you but like that, but that's just how I feel about it.
Speaker 1:Like you know, to me, you can't and and I and I and I, in a sense I agree with you and it kind of reminds me, and I and I said on his vlog, not being open-minded, but at the same time, it's to your point. It's to your point that a few years back well, not a few years, probably a decade now I had went to listen to the Yeezus album by Kanye. I was super excited. It's Kanye West, one of my favorite rappers. I was super excited, kanye West, one of my favorite rappers. And it was like, yeah, he came out with it and I thought it was terrible. I listened to this shit. I was like, bro, what the fuck is this? This is awful. And so I went back and I started talking to people about how because there are some people that think Yeezus is one of his greatest albums of all time and I mean, hey, that's what you, that's what you did, bro, that's what you listen to.
Speaker 1:That's how you feel, yeah, how you feel, hey, bro, more priority, hey, more yeezus for you, but I wasn't open-minded enough to think that he would experiment like that, and I was just like, I mean, I guess, and so that's why I've been open that's why I've been kind of open minded with certain perspectives of shit, because at this point, when it comes to life, it's about perspective, and it's your perspective against theirs, and but I do get. What you're saying, though, is that if you're going to make a point, make the point and make it direct. However, that's not who Kendrick is, and I can't kind of I can't hello, I kind of can't compare the situation to the Yeezus, because Yeezus is on a personal CD that you have to personally listen to on your personal time. I get you, I completely get that, alright let's get to chopping this fight oh, here we go, pull the sword out.
Speaker 1:So I watched the interview.
Speaker 3:The Apple Music interview. Oh, here we go, you can pull the sword out. All right, man, Totally. So I watched the interview, the Apple Music interview. You know what I'm saying with Kendrick and all that.
Speaker 1:That's the one before.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he said that authenticity is one of the key points that he spoke on very deeply throughout the interview. One of the key points that he spoke on very deeply throughout the interview, and because kendrick values authenticity so much, there's no way that he was gonna deliver, because tonic was making the same point that you making superbowl is a is a party. Right, it's supposed to be just entertainment everyone having a good time playing the. You know songs that everybody know, because that's that's one of the biggest knocks. Right, folk didn't know the songs that he was performing.
Speaker 1:All that right which is I wouldn't say that odd like I wouldn't. I wouldn't go that far, I wouldn't go that far when niggas were saying that I was like, I mean, I get, they're not the biggest songs he has, but fuck, squabble Up came out and was TikTok famous Fucking.
Speaker 2:All the Stars was huge. Humble, Humble.
Speaker 1:DNA.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to say that I wouldn't agree with that.
Speaker 3:Well, because that was my biggest thing with Sonic. I said, okay, you with that. Well, that was because that was my biggest thing with sonic. I said, okay, you know what I'm saying. It's kendrick lamar. What would you have? What would you rather have had him do different? You know, I'm saying, and he's like I wouldn't have him perform. I said, look, that's not the question. Look, he's selected as a performer. What perform? What would you rather have him perform differently than what he did?
Speaker 2:he gonna bring us swimming pools I mean it was a big song, but like listen me personally.
Speaker 1:Pool is so mid to me.
Speaker 2:I ain't me personally. Just I don't have a problem with any of the songs he performed, even the new song he debuted at the Super Bowl. I don't have an issue with that.
Speaker 1:Wait, what song I heard that? What song did he debut at the Super Bowl? I forgot.
Speaker 2:It was the one where it was him and there was people behind him.
Speaker 3:That wasn't a new song. That was on a new album.
Speaker 2:That's the man in the garden yeah, that's the man at the garden. Well, they said one of those songs was new.
Speaker 1:I'm not completely sure I think they said it was that one, because I think even sam um, I think uncle sam, he highlighted that one.
Speaker 2:He was like oh, um, if I heard it correctly I could be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the one he highlighted. He said the duck won life yeah, won life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think in his little speech he was like oh, it might have been you performing with your boys. I thought I heard you doing that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I could be wrong With your homeboys at Ghetto or some shit. Yeah, or some hood rat shit. Anywho.
Speaker 2:I mean that's besides the point. Go ahead. But like, well, back to my further point. I don't have an issue with any of the songs that you perform. I mean, yeah, I don't have an issue with that.
Speaker 3:So you think you feel like the message should have been clearer and more straight to the point. That's your point.
Speaker 2:I feel like the symbolism. He could have rolled back a little bit.
Speaker 1:Lupe, dumb it down.
Speaker 2:And yes, if you're going to send a message like that.
Speaker 3:But here's my thing though 20. Especially, and yes, if you're going to send a message like that, but here's my thing though 20.
Speaker 2:Especially with the song, especially with the song Dumb it down your biggest song being more clear, more concise. There's not as much symbolism. Dumb it down. That's how that performance should have been.
Speaker 3:How are you going to say that when in that song he said the audience not dumb, Like how are you going to say that he literally said the audience is not dumb? If he's standing on that, then why would he dumb down his performance? If he says in the biggest song that everybody know him for he says the audience is not dumb, why would he dumb down his performance? Because, that would be detracting from what he's standing on.
Speaker 2:He had too much faith in his audience. Well, okay, if he's saying the audience.
Speaker 4:He might, yeah, he might, if he's saying the audience is not dumb.
Speaker 2:He means his audience is not dumb because, at the end of the day, everybody outside of his audience needed to go to social media needed to go to his fans to figure out what was going on in that performance. If you weren't a fan of Kendrick, you thought that performance was not good, and that's point blank period. But here's my thing or part of the culture. I'm not going to lie and that's your first reaction.
Speaker 3:I understand that. Here's my thing, though he had to deliver that message on that platform, because that's not a platform he's gonna get every single time exactly, which is to my point, if you're going to do that hit and hit hard.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying it has to be to the point where it's fuck racism. You know, fuck Donald Trump, shit like that.
Speaker 1:That's what it sounds like. I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 2:That's what it sounds like, no no, no, what I'm saying is this there was so much symbolism and it was so complex, to the point where the average viewer Okay. So if we're in a room of 10 people who are non-Kendrick fans, all 10 people thought that that performance was mid because they were looking for entertainment and they missed the point. The only time that that performance could have been broken down is if there's 11 people in there and one of them was a Kendrick fan and they're like guys.
Speaker 2:you guys are missing the point. It's not supposed to be entertaining. They're like guys. You guys are missing the point. It's not supposed to be entertaining. He just sent a message and then you go back and you dissect it. You dissect the point, the performance. That's my point. So, instead of that, what I'm saying is this instead of it doesn't have to be so overt, but what I'm saying is is this how about make it to the point where it's symbolic, to the point where the black panther with beyonce and and runo mars in that performance, that's, it's not so overt, but it's overt, to the point where, if you know, you know and you understand, and if you're in a room full of 10 people, you understand it, like three out of the three out of the 10 would understand it.
Speaker 3:I okay, I see what you're saying, but another issue, I think, is the fact that this is the first solo rap artist that's done the done the Grammys. You know what I'm saying. You mean Superbowl, superbowl, excuse me.
Speaker 2:Solo artists.
Speaker 3:Solo rap artist. There's never been a performer that was a solo rap artist that did the Super Bowl. You're saying Beyonce and people can vibe to Beyonce just based off of her singing, because they can hear her sing and do these dance moves and stuff. But a pure rapper strictly rapping like the closest thing will probably be when dr dre had brought out snoop kendrick, mary j blige and all that.
Speaker 3:But even then even then, it's like you're taking five artists and then you're taking like their top party songs. You know I'm saying like, so it's like it's one big party and it's like that, that everybody's cool with that. You know, I'm saying, and I understand there's no real point to that. They just celebrating the greatness of dr dre and what he done, contributed to the music game, which there's no problem with. You know I'm saying, but that's really the basis of it. There's no real message being, you know I'm saying, trying to be pushed out and I understand that.
Speaker 2:And my only pushback to you is I don't have an issue with the message being pushed out I'm saying is make that message more clear, because you're on that stage but I'm saying, how are you going to make it more clear?
Speaker 3:that would be asking him to to dumb that. How would you? How would you have dumbed down that? That performance I would have?
Speaker 2:I would have done some type of tribute. That performance, I would have done some type of tribute. I would have done some type of tribute. Dei right, that's a big thing now. I would have incorporated some type of I would have highlighted DEI some way, somehow to the point where you know if you're paying attention. Black people understood it right.
Speaker 3:You said DEIE-I.
Speaker 2:D-E-I Diversity, equity and inclusion. That's been a big thing, and it's another term for racism, right?
Speaker 1:You never heard of the D-E-I thing. So basically, d-e-i is basically they can discriminate at the workplace. Yeah, they can discriminate, uh, for your at the workplace yeah, they can discriminate at your workplace.
Speaker 2:You feel like um just because you're asian, just because you're asian, you're black, you're a woman, like we have to hire you because you're, because we don't have enough diversity, equity or inclusion, so that that being a big thing, protesting that, some way, somehow you incorporate that into the show, making that clear so that the general audience or the people who need to understand, so those three people that are non Kendrick fans can understand.
Speaker 2:Wait, this is not just for entertainment, this is not just a Beyonce, this is not just a Rihanna, and I'm not let's throw Beyonce out of it of it because she put on when she did the Black Panther stance For her when she represented during her Super Bowl halftime show. So we're going to throw. Beyonce out of it. She did it Something closer to that. That's what I would have done differently. She did it Something closer to that. That's what I would have done differently.
Speaker 3:Once again, you're comparing something that's completely different, though. You know what I'm saying, how? Because Beyonce sings, and so that's already a difference, because people are more likely to listen to someone sing than be saying a whole bunch of words that rhyme and saying them fast. You know, I'm saying people can't even understand kendrick, like what he's saying, but people are more. They'll listen to what beyonce is singing just because it sounds a melody. Yeah, it's a melody that they may not even hear the lyrics she's singing, but because she's singing and it sounds good, singing wise, they'll listen or they'll be entertained by that, because not everybody can sing.
Speaker 2:And I understand that and that, and that's where it does make it a little bit more difficult, because you are a rapper.
Speaker 3:But another thing about Kendrick is he wanted one of his other key points about this performance is he wanted to showcase hip-hop as an art form. And what does that mean? If we really go down to the basis of hip-hop, it's dope lyrics over dope beats. It's that simple, you know. I'm saying like. So if you, if your main focus is being as authentic as possible and showcasing that hip-hop is an art form, because it's often not recognized as that, it's often not appreciated as that, if that's what you're standing on, then I I don't see how you can dumb down your performance because you want to make it more entertaining to the people when you're trying to showcase and stand on the fact that hip-hop is an art form that needs to be appreciated well, okay, and maybe, maybe, the.
Speaker 2:When I say some dumbing it down, you think of it as trying to take away from the authenticity of the, of the performance, and you know, yeah, dope beats and and that's not what I'm saying. Once again, where the songs he performed, I had no issue with them. I had none whatsoever, whatsoever. And even the entertainment aspect. I don't have an issue with it not being entertaining because at the, at the general base of it, it was not supposed to be an, it wasn't supposed to be entertaining, it was supposed to be what did you think, swanee?
Speaker 2:I told you as far as how do I feel about the performance yeah, what did you think? In the moment. I'm not a Kendrick fan. I'm not an everyday Kendrick fan what did you think?
Speaker 3:you turned it on.
Speaker 2:I'm breaking it down. You know what I mean. I'm breaking it down. In the moment when I saw it, I said this performance is very mid. However, I'm thinking as a normal NFL fan, what I'm used to. I'm used to a performance, I'm used to entertainment. I'm used to that stage being that it wasn't until the next day when I went to social media and I saw that this was not about entertainment. This was about Kendrick sending a message and about how he was sending a message to his people. Was I able to go back and look at that performance and enjoy it in a different light? And look at that performance and enjoy it in a different light? So once I was able to get the message and understand what he was trying to portray, that's when I decided ah, okay, that's a solid performance, Because not only is he addressing his lawsuit with Sony, but he was also sending a message to his people. Now, the only crap I have about it is that it wasn't clear enough, and that's that's always gonna be my, that's gonna always be my biggest critic.
Speaker 3:But if you. But if you get it, then why is there a complaint?
Speaker 1:because he's saying, because he wasn't able to get that on the first, on the first try, he just watch it the first try. But let me ask you this 20.
Speaker 3:Have you ever watched a movie five times and gotten five different meanings out of it each time you re-watched the movie?
Speaker 2:I wouldn't know, I wouldn't Five times, maybe re-watching it a second time. I'm understanding it and I'm like, okay, I watched it, it was entertaining. The second time I'm like, ah, ok, third time is probably the last time I get all the meanings out of it. Fourth and fifth that's when I'm just seeing minor details that I probably missed the first time. I mean, granted, everybody's, everybody today is now just figuring out and Friday it was you know what. I mean there was a girl, I mean there was a guy in the bed with Felicia when she was calling Craig, and most people are saying that it was Debo. And I've watched Friday multiple times, multiple times.
Speaker 2:So my thing is this, like being that I had to re-watch it and I'm not saying I had to get everything, but it would have been nice. For in the moment I understand that, okay, you know, I got that. He's paying tribute to that. At least he plans to seed in my head to the point where, like, well, in the midst of me calling it mid, I'm like, okay, I could go to social media see what other people think. And then, when they started telling me that it was a message to us, you know our people, you know for us to come together. I can be like ah okay, be like.
Speaker 1:Ah, okay, it makes sense why I interpreted that as that. Let me actually this 20 um, because here's a point that no one ever brings up and I feel like I'm like the only one that ever brings this up, and I don't know, I might just be tripping. When you, when you turned on that, when you turned on that, uh, when you turned on the halftime show for the first time, did it ever cross your mind? Did it ever cross your mind that he was like that? You were like you're just, you're just anticipating for him to drop, not like us.
Speaker 2:No, I knew, I knew it, like I knew he was probably going to drop it. I knew, bro, that's, that's how you ended up on the Super Bowl. You would be like I mean, I hear what Charlamagne was saying because I did agree with him to an extent where I'm like man you probably shouldn't perform a diss, but the diss is what got you to the Super Bowl. So you're going to hear that song, but me personally, I like the performance, I like the bells and I like the whistles. Me personally, my favorite halftime show of all time was Rihanna. Rihanna didn't do much. She was very simple with it. It was mostly the choreography around her that made it for me, with all the bells and whistles.
Speaker 1:Well, that, and she was singing as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I was also a Rihanna fan. I knew most of the songs. So you know, maybe there's a little bit of bias there.
Speaker 1:So there was no anticipation for not like us.
Speaker 2:You, you knew it was happening. I knew it was happening. You knew that it was 100. I didn't know, I didn't know how it was going to get presented, but I knew it was happening. Why wouldn't you present?
Speaker 1:so there was so there was never. So there was no, well, because he was getting sued. Because he was going to get sued, no, he was going to perform that song. Well, yes, because I mean, but that was still okay. So this is a point that I keep bringing up and I feel like I, I feel like I talked to you about this, but I don't know if I don't remember, if I did or not. I feel like where everybody missed the points was, like you said, not like us is what got him to the super bowl, correct?
Speaker 1:yes people were sitting on the edge of their seat the whole time. As a matter of fact, hold on hold. That thought real quick, real quick, let me see time. Kendrick, alright, set list. Let's see, alright. So here's the thing. Right. So Not Like Us was number 10. So and this is where I feel like Kendrick shot himself in the foot. Like you said, not Like Us is what got him to the dance, correct?
Speaker 1:yes everybody in that building, like you said, probably isn't a kendrick fan, but they either know not like us or they're like. Oh, this is that. This is that this is that song this is that song that won the five grammys. Did it ever cross your mind that they probably missed the point of all the symbolism and all that? Because they had to wait through GNX? Squabble up humble DNA, euphoria man at the garden. So they're like, okay, squabble up Cool Humble, cool, dna, cool, euphoria, cool. And they're like, okay, when are we getting?
Speaker 2:out like this thing, though the only pushback I had to that is humble was a big song. That was a big, okay, okay, but but here's the thing.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing, and I don't mean to cut you off the the reason why I say that people I feel like a lot of people miss the symbolism because, like you said, no, a lot of them knew, not like us. And yeah, they, they may know DNA, they may know all of these, but Not Like Us. Before this was only performed one time and that was at the pop-up show. That was at the pop-up show. One, that's one thing. So they want to be a part of history. Quote unquote.
Speaker 1:Two he's in a lawsuit because of this song for defamation and some shit with UMG that Drake feels like he's getting, he's getting labeled as a pedophile and then, on the same time, umg is pushing this song better than any other song or some shit. So, with all that being said, people are like, oh shit, is he gonna do it? Oh shit, is he gonna do it? Ah, fuck, he's done. Squabble up, okay, that's cool. Humble cool, dna cool, euphoria cool, peekaboo cool, luther cool, all the stars cool. So by that point, we're at song 10 and you missed this whole performance because you were just looking for one song yeah, but also in that, in that same breath, as a to kind of in that point.
Speaker 2:Um, you know that I guess this is where I kind of have too much faith in the audience, you know. You know that song is not going to come until the end of the performance, you know that as an audience member you're sitting now and you're you're enjoying a performance.
Speaker 2:Most people are not going to bring out their most popular song until the end. I mean, are you telling me you're going to pull out your best moves in the beginning? No, you're going to wait till the end to give off. Give off your best moves. You're playing spades.
Speaker 1:You're not playing big joker in the beginning, you're playing it towards the end, when you're trying to get all the books I mean that makes sense, but at the same time, at the same time, they weren't, so they weren't gonna get the symbolism already. Because not like us, because not like they're waiting for, not like us, they don't. They don't give a fuck about symbolism and, like you said, super bowl is meant for entertainment, they're meant to have fun and all that shit. What got them there, like you said, was not like us. So whether, if, whether, if, and that's why I was trying. That was the point I was trying to make. That's why I asked you about Not Like Us, whether, if he put Not Like Us, so basically for them to get the symbolism, I feel like he had to have performed Not Like Us and then went on with the show. That's how I felt. That's how I felt about the situation.
Speaker 2:No, how he did it. He had to do it like that. Because now, like, because think about it now, like because think about it in that same breath, you now everybody's on the crowd, like that's when you have the most, that's when you have the audience's attention at like peak, because you're waiting for that song?
Speaker 1:no, and I get that. But what I'm saying is they're already not getting the symbolism because he's not putting it all the way out there, but at the same time, they're not even worried about that because they're waiting on not like us but the thing is like as an audience member, you know not like us is coming, like me personally but that's what I'm saying. No, they don't, because he's in a. He's in a lawsuit. Him and umg are in a lawsuit. That's why that. That's why everybody's like oh shit, he's gonna do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's why there's a video. There's a video of T-Pain.
Speaker 1:He's like bro, oh shit, no, he's not going to do it, he can't do it. He can't do it Because he's in a lawsuit right now. Him and UNG are in a lawsuit. I'm sorry, go ahead, tanaka.
Speaker 3:No, no, that was the topic of this.
Speaker 2:Going into this. That was going to do it. I didn't do my research on it.
Speaker 1:What I heard was he confirmed that the song was going to be played or he was going to perform the song, but that's the thing, though Kendrick doesn't do a lot of interviews, and the interviews he does do he's kind of surface level with shit that he says He'll talk about, like his previous stuff or, you know, not like, uh, not like us. The, the beef is already done, like he's. He's been, he's been talking about it and like it. It just is what it is and whatever. But when it comes to shit like this, he's not gonna say anything about it, he's gonna do it.
Speaker 1:You're gonna either like it or love it and he's gonna go back to whatever the fuck he's gonna do yeah me.
Speaker 2:I just see it as like it was gonna get performed like bro you.
Speaker 2:That's what got me here, bro, like you know what I mean, but that that's what got me here as like there's no way, like all right, even when, like you know, I'm called upon to to perform that song, right, there's no way they're like okay, um, apple or umg. Or like there's no way that you didn't get the okay, because, at the end of the day, this is a song. The reason why we want you for the super bowl is because this, this is a song. This song is so popular and won all these grammys and won all these.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you this to feel because because I'm not gonna lie, I don't, I don't know, and, tanaka, maybe you can, maybe you can tell me if I'm wrong or not why is it that they chose? Because I'm not going to lie, I don't know, and, tanaka, maybe you can tell me if I'm wrong or not why is it that they chose 2025, that they choose an artist that is big, that is super big for that one song to do this year. I've never known the Super Bowl to pick an artist for one song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know why they did it Me personally because a lot of people were like that was a big thing. They were upset because they felt like Wayne should have been. Because it's not only that, I'm going to just stop, I'm going to just stop you there.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to lie, I'm just going to speak this. I'm going to speak this now. I'm a big Wayne fan. I'm a big Wayne fan. There is no way in hell that Wayne would have been able to do the Superbowl in the state that he's in right now. And this is the thing. This is the thing that kind of irks me about Wayne fans is that they choose the oldest fucking videos of him and have him do it Now. Granted, he may have been able to do it if they were doing, maybe like a I don't know cash, money, millionaires or no limit collaboration maybe, but forne to do it, bro.
Speaker 3:Little wayne is not in the state to do the fucking super bowl and that that's another thing that once again speaks to kendrick's point, the the performance that he put on. Like people think that's easy, that wasn't easy. That wasn't an easy performance for him to do. Did you see the breath control that he was having? Rapping? He was running, walking down the field like doing the dance moves with the like, With no backtrack.
Speaker 1:With no backtrack at all.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying, and people underrate that, and I think that goes to the point. That he had, though, is that he wanted to show that hip-hop is an art form. That's an art form to be able to do all that Like that takes skill, it takes practice, and I think that a lot of rappers think they could do that. They would be done after the first song, like they couldn't do stuff like that, and to have it with that type of clarity, spitting all those rhymes like that, and that's where I think, Just like Turner said, I respect Wayne, I got love for Wayne, he got hits on hits. I get it, but would he be able to put a performance together like that? Fuck, no, fuck, no. He's already forgetting lyrics from his songs.
Speaker 1:His popular songs Did you know about that.
Speaker 2:Listen, I didn't say nothing about Wayne. Oh no, I hear you Well, actually you did say something about Wayne.
Speaker 1:That's what made me. I'm just talking to the people at this point. Bro, we all love Wayne. Yes, we love Wayne, but Wayne, like I said, I don't know what Kendrick does on his personal time, but Wayne has been very open about doing lean, about smoking weed, about doing this, about doing that. He might be clean now, I don't know, but you can obviously tell his body has taken a toll from his past decisions. And him, bro, we at that point we just been, would have been listening to a record.
Speaker 3:at that point we just would have been listening to a backtrack because don't get me wrong, I've seen wayne live and he and it was good, but I feel like that was more so off the popularity of the songs as opposed to actually the technicality of his performance and for it to be a 15-minute set, that pretty much has to be tight-knit all the way through. I don't see him doing that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Wayne, definitely going to have a couple guests for sure.
Speaker 3:Exactly, you know, and I feel like you know, I get it. I understand Everybody's like it's New Orleans, this, that and the third, I get it. You did, but at the end of the day, you know, I just didn't see that happening. You, you know, I just didn't see that happening.
Speaker 1:You feel me and how many. How many guests, cause I didn't watch the Rihanna one. How many guests does she have on hers?
Speaker 3:She did it all solo but she's also a pop star. You know, like did the weekend do a solo too.
Speaker 2:Um, I don't remember that one wasn't memorable to me.
Speaker 1:Um, it was only memorable to me. It was only memorable to me because that man blew $7 million for that fucking performance.
Speaker 2:That's the only reason why it's memorable to me.
Speaker 1:I didn't watch it at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, that's the lowest rated, lowest viewed halftime Super Bowl in history.
Speaker 1:And he blew $7 million. He spit $7 million.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't know. I can't imagine, like I, he might have had a feature. I'm not completely sure. I don't know. But like it wasn't memorable to me. I know Rihanna's, I know Rihanna's. Rihanna's did it solo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, shout out to Rihanna.
Speaker 3:But yeah, no, that shout out to.
Speaker 1:Rihanna. But yeah, no, that, but the way, the way that I look at it, man, and she was pregnant, not to mention that as well.
Speaker 3:I don't think Kendrick's goal was to, kind of like, get everyone to understand his message. You know what I'm saying. I think that the goal was to deliver the message on that platform and the folks that were going to get it were going to get it, and if they didn't get it, they didn't get it. But then also the middle people who maybe didn't quite understand it but then got involved in the discussions and you know, saying, on second, look and talk to people. You know what I mean. I think that was really his focus because he already knows that it's going to be a divide you feel me between two people, but he was focused on that middle of people who may be curious you know I'm saying and may not fully understand or may not be in the spaces to have that type of conversation, but because it happened following the performance, they start to have the conversation about it, and those are the people that I think that he was trying to focus on yeah, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So that's why I feel like it was. It was just kind of like a tap in a pool, like it was just boom.
Speaker 2:That's it and that's who you were trying to. You know, send the message to then those, because I consider myself those people in the middle, people like me shouldn't have to go to social media to catch most of that message. But that was the point. That was the point.
Speaker 1:That was the point you were supposed to, because the lord knows that you were going to go to social media and you were going to find out because it was on the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but and that's my point on that stage, that message.
Speaker 1:No, but, but. But, philip, that was the point, is it? It wasn't supposed to be, it wasn't supposed to be, ok, so here's the thing.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And I think I'm starting. I think I'm getting a little bit, a little bit. It wasn't because you, being in the middle, that's fine Wasn't supposed to be you going. Oh, I'm going to go see what Kendrick wants to go. He doesn't give a fuck about how you feel. He knows that you're going to go to social media. One because it's the Super Bowl. Two, because there was a message sent out and he knows he's symbolizing everything. So he's not worried about if you give a fuck about it or not. He just knows what's gonna happen is that every somebody's gonna the conversation is gonna be had and the message is gonna get put out by everybody else. He doesn't it. And I don't know. I'm not, I'm not speaking for kendrick. I don't know, but I don't think he cares about if you like it or not. He just knows that you're gonna get the message.
Speaker 2:He doesn't care how you get the message you're gonna get the message and in in my pushback to all of that is like okay then like why do it? Why send the message if if you're not only a select few are supposed to get it because because people are supposed to send your message instead of just having no, just having collectively, uh, like as many people can get it as possible, like that's my whole thing.
Speaker 1:That's kindred philip, that's, that's dumbing it down. That's literally the definition of exactly and that's my whole point.
Speaker 2:If that, if you're sending a message, what I'm saying is if you're sending a message, it needs to be clear and concise, especially on that stage.
Speaker 3:On that, stage, but but 20 that.
Speaker 1:That would be asking him to not be himself I'm not saying well and honestly and and that's I mean, that's something I don't know, that's something, uh, that's something a rookie, that's something a rookie person do. Kendrick has put in enough time that he doesn't have to do that. That's why Good Kid Mad City sounds the way it sounds, because he had a lot of people behind him that was like hey, you got to do this, this, this, this. That's why poetic justice is a thing.
Speaker 2:He wouldn't have did that on the first deal, that's how you could tell the second album sounds the way it sounds? Because he, he had enough trust in his record, his record label had enough trust in him for he. They were like you know what, go do your thing. So, okay, let me ask you this, and then I gotta head out soon. You know what I mean. Um, so let me ask you this. So when, when you hear, when you hear me say dumb it down, what exactly? How do you perceive that?
Speaker 1:so I I see what you're saying when I say dumb it down. It has like a negative. What is it?
Speaker 3:Negative connotation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, negative connotation to it, but like that's it's, like it's not. You're not actually saying dumb it down. You're like just saying you're saying like the nice way of saying dumb it down. You're like just saying you're saying like the nice way of saying dumb it down what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Well, so in a sense I'm what I'm saying is your message yeah, make it more clear yeah, exactly dumb it down, yeah so, okay, okay so here's what I want you to do.
Speaker 1:I want you to, and I I really need you to do this. I want you, when you're driving, I want you to go listen to a song by lupe Fiasco called Dummy Down. Go listen to that. I just want you to listen to that song and you may get a better idea of where we're coming from, type shit. You may or may not, I don't know, but in a sense like here's the thing.
Speaker 2:I understand your point because I had the same conversation with someone at work today. She was like pretty much um you can't, you can't ask kendrick to change who he is and how he delivers his message. And my point, my challenge to that point, is on that stage, you have to, especially on that stage, with the message that you're trying to stage. You have to, especially on that stage with the message that you're trying to send you have to.
Speaker 1:You sound like the white man, tony. Oh god, no but that's what I'm saying that's exactly what the white man was okay so let me ask you this who made that rule that you have to do that?
Speaker 2:okay, maybe have to is a little bit, maybe have to is a little bit strong, but you have to. Who made, who made that rule should or have to who made that, and that's another thing.
Speaker 1:And you know what's crazy about that? It's crazy. You talk about the rule of hip-hop hip-hop, like he said, dope beats, dope track, all that stuff. But you know what, though? You know what? You know what the foundation of hip-hop was found on. There are no rules. Do what you want. That's be you, that's that's. That's that's why hip hop was able to evolve into other different shit, like jersey club music and melodic rapping and all that type of stuff, because that's what hip-hop was founded on is there is no rules.
Speaker 2:Do what you want to do definitely and, and, and. I get it once again. I do, but what? I'm saying with disregard you said before yeah, my thing is this, like what and? And this is just me, just and that's and that's and that's the thing I'm.
Speaker 1:I don't. I don't want to cut you off because that's disrespectful, I'm sorry. What I will say is this these are more personal. Like I can't, I can't tell you how to feel. I I get you feel like it should have been clearer. You felt like that I I can't tell Kendrick Lamar hey, bro, you should, hey, can you? Can you tell me? I can't. Like I understand what you're saying and I wish it was clear too. Fuck, I wish I would have been able to get the information like just right there, him to just say, hey, what I was trying to say is fuck, donald Trump, like I. Yeah, I wish, I wish I would have been able to get the information like just right there, him just say, hey, what I was trying to say is fuck Donald Trump?
Speaker 2:Like yeah, I wish, no, no, no. Let me tell you what it's like. Right, I'm listening. Remember, you know I mean back in the day you used to say pussyfooting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely pussyfooting, alright cool.
Speaker 2:So, like you telling me, you're looking across from your wife right, looking across from my wife, right, you're looking across from your wife Right how you doing.
Speaker 1:No, you're not saying baby, oh, no, baby. You're not saying that oh fuck, because you pussyfoot, because you pussyfoot, oh, okay, right, alright.
Speaker 2:So you're just like you know hey how you doing today. I'm good, it's good. It's a good day, you know it's a good day out. Sun is shining. Sun is shining right. You know what I mean, you know you post any pictures on Instagram today.
Speaker 1:Some small talk.
Speaker 2:You post any pictures on Instagram today Anybody any, you know got any likes, stuff like that Right All the while you pretty much you know in the background. What you're pretty much saying is you look like, if I'm going to take it to photography, you look good, you look like you need a photo session, you're so beautiful, but you're hiding it behind you pussyfooting because, you're on.
Speaker 2:Have you taken pictures yet of yourself today? Have you posted it? You know what I mean. Has anybody led you any comments when you really want to say yo, you should post yourself, take a picture, post yourself and have people tell you that you're beautiful, instead of saying and I'm not saying, you got to go that extreme or you know what I mean in a sense. Okay, I'm listening. If you're following, I'm listening, right. I'm listening Right.
Speaker 2:What I'm saying is, like you know what I mean Pretty much saying what's wrong with you. Know you look good today. Let me take a picture of you real fast. Oh, and what I'm saying is how I felt about the halftime show was have you taken a picture of yourself today?
Speaker 1:He was pussyfoot Versus he was pussyfoot and I'm not saying yo, you got that shit on.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Why, in the A, let me hit this, this, and that I'm trying to put a ring on you. I'm not saying all of that, but you know a little bit more. You know what I mean. You looking good today. You know what I mean. You know, let me take a picture of you. You know, tell you, you know, in the midst of the photo shoot. Oh, you looking beautiful. You working that dress, this, this and that, Like that's what I'm saying. Closer to that, to the point where you know maybe she could miss it, but if she's for you she's going to catch. Oh, he's flirting with me Versus her, where she's pussyfooting is okay. He's asking me if I took a picture of myself today that I posted. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So what you're saying is symbolism is pussyfooting.
Speaker 2:No, what I'm saying is the symbolism that was represented, in my opinion, was pussyfooting with the message that he was trying to send. That's what I'm saying, and what I'm saying is in that symbolism. Make it more clear and concise.
Speaker 1:so kendrick, basically your pussy, and that's not what I said.
Speaker 2:That's not what I said.
Speaker 1:Get the shit off your chest stop being such a bitch and just tell us what we want to say. That's not what I said.
Speaker 2:Fucking bitch ass nigga what I'm saying is this what I'm saying is In your symbolism and that's pretty much everything in the background. I'm not even talking about how. Like I said, I have no issues with the songs that were performed. That's not my issue. My issue is In the symbolism. It wasn't clear and concise enough for that girl To understand that oh, he's flirting with me but yet but, but at the same time, um, I just okay.
Speaker 1:So, um, I don't know. Symbolism to the yeah, you gotta give me a second to dissect that one. I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't know about 20. I think his objective is to challenge the audience to think.
Speaker 2:No, here's my thing, right.
Speaker 1:That's not the place to do it. No, no, no, I'm not saying.
Speaker 3:So that's Tonic's, not the place to do it. That's that's. I'm not saying that was so that's tonic's, that's tonic's combat to that point. That's not the place to do it.
Speaker 2:No, no no no no, no that's me, I'm not, I'm not gonna go as far as tonic and say um you can't challenge the audience to think there's nothing wrong with the making, challenging the audience and think what I'm saying is this even when you're taking a picture, you're taking pictures of that girl. I'm sorry, I'm into photography now, but taking pictures, oh, you're working it, this, this, and that you're planting so many seeds in her head to the point where she's like, is he? Flirting with me? Is he flirting with me?
Speaker 2:oh, he's flirting with me or you know, he's flirting with me by telling me this. He's flirting with me by telling me this. He's flirting with me by telling me that, to the point where she knows I'm not saying like, yeah, get that shit out of here. We're not here for, we're here to be entertained. And. I can. I understand Tonic's view. Like with history, it's about entertainment, it's not about you know a pop quiz, but see my issue with the tonic thing.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. I know that's not your stance, you know what I'm saying. My issue with the tonic thing, though, is like that's like, yeah, black performer, go out and dance for me. Like that's basically what I'm getting from that it's pretty much like shut up and drip.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like, you know I'm saying like, but I'm not going. That's, that's. That's literally what kendrick's trying to fight in the system. You know I'm saying so. That's why I can't get behind what tonic's saying, because it's like I get, that's what you're used to. But if Kendrick's always been about deconstructing the system to create a more A country that better understands the perspective and struggles you know what I'm saying Then he has to. He has to do it that way, like it can't be based off of old, traditional ways. If that's the system that he's trying to break down and dissect for people to realize and understand the true meaning of why he's speaking, on what he's speaking on, and and and to that, and I would disagree with tonic on the point of dance boy, yeah, because you, like you know what I mean, like you know that's what in, you know, just so, like on the way out, we can all kind of be on the same side, right.
Speaker 1:When it comes to.
Speaker 2:Tonics Point. That's what got him there. So you can't tell a person do something like this other artist. That's like telling me to DJ like DJ Ham. That's not what got me to where I'm at as far as a DJ, you can't tell me. Or you can't tell Kendrick to perform like Rihanna. That's not what got him there. For you to say that, one, I don't know how to how to do that and two, they, they're, they chose me to be me as an artist. So if this is my, this is how I like, if this is my artistry, then this is what I going to perform, because not only I know how to do it, but you know what I mean. This is what got me here. Like these songs is what got me here. You know, like, damn the entertainment. If it's not entertaining to you, then it is what it is, but this is what got me here. So this is how I'm going to perform and this is how I'm going to go about it.
Speaker 2:So yes, in that sense.
Speaker 2:I do agree with that, like, you know what I mean, don't I'm not going to dumb it down to the point where these, you know I mean like the, these five year olds, you know don't completely understand the history of racism and all of that and DEI and all of that to the point for them to understand and have a big old party and this, this and that. No, what got me here was my complexity, my lyricism, my symbolism, my everything that I do. So I'm going to showcase that on the biggest stage. So when it comes against Sonic, I do like we are all on the same side.
Speaker 3:Except with Sonic, is what you're saying. Yeah, no, he's saying we're all on the same side with the dance boy?
Speaker 2:we don't yeah yeah, I don't, I don't believe, like me personally, like I said, I feel like that was a solid performance, now that I understand it, now that I understand, like the backstory behind it, now that I understand but I the vision and the the goal behind it.
Speaker 3:That was a solid performance yeah, but I think once again once again yeah, once again, turnip just spoke on it. The point of this whole thing was to have the discussion. Yeah, okay, and you had the discussion, even though you didn't understand it the first time.
Speaker 1:You don't understand it, you don't like it. He doesn't care about the emotion that comes with it, he just wants the conversation to be had.
Speaker 3:The question is was the message delivered? And it was no matter whether or not you were entertained or not.
Speaker 1:Basically, you ever watch the Hangover. Yeah, I watch the Hangover, but did you die? That's basically it. That's basically the situation. Kendrick is like, okay, but did you die? That's what I feel like the situation is. No, that's what I feel like the situation is.
Speaker 2:No, and me personally, if I'm not someone who cared to go to social media or who's not on social media or anything like that, that's kind of disconnected. I'm that girl.
Speaker 1:And I'm just like yeah, I just had this weird interaction with this guy. Yeah, but okay, let's add context to you not being on social media. You've been not being on social media, not you per se, but like in this day and age, if you're not on social media is a little weird.
Speaker 3:Like, even if you're not like, even if you're not like really active, like you're at least a little bit on social media, like my mom and my stepdad are on social media but my, my mom and my dad are not, and if they and they my thing, my thing is they didn't understand my thing is this, though, is that, even if they're not on social media, right, they probably had folks that other folks that was talking about it, and they probably had the discussion that way, in person. You know, I'm saying so regardless of whether you got the information through social media, whether you got it through a conversation amongst your friends, your peers, like the conversation was still being had regardless, and that's the point I have brought up to.
Speaker 1:Uh, tonic, I forgot what we were talking about and it was um, we're talking about barbershop talk. Barbershop and nail salon talk. Like folks like to act like social media was like the first time folks were doing that like no, that was nail salon, that's like nail salon, barbershop talk oh, that fucking kendrick, that shit was so ass. Hey, but did you? But did you? Oh no, but you can't say that. You know, hey, did you know this? Did you notice that? A minor chain, that? Or like just a little shit like that, like, yeah, that conversation happens what's crazy is that a A chain is apparently a PG lane.
Speaker 1:Apparently, it's a whole bunch of double entendres to that fucking chain. Apparently, there's a lot going on with that chain. Well, sir, do you have anything else to say? Because it looked like you were ready to go. No, I got to wrap it up. I got to wrap it up.
Speaker 2:As much as I enjoyed the conversation, I do got to wrap it up. Like I said, photography isn't the new hustle, so I got to go do someone's birthday show.
Speaker 1:All right, Well cool. Would you like to tell the people listening?
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Speaker 1:Cool. Well, we're going to wrap this up with the scheduling To piggyback Fox said that it was his song.
Speaker 3:Wipe Me Down was his song.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 3:Boosie had reached out to him and was like, hey, he was up with Asylum at the time. He said hey, man, we doing this little album and we need a single. Is it cool? If you know me and Webby, hop on, you know, make that the single. And he said cool. And he said they're like we're going to pay you like this check and this check, and then everybody will get one. So he got two checks off the song and it's that was it. And he been paid ever since.
Speaker 1:He's been paid Like he's getting more checks off of this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, okay. So he's like everybody, paid Like everybody good.
Speaker 1:See, and that's why I'm okay with that. Okay, hold on, that's cool.
Speaker 3:That's why he don't really feel like the need to talk about it, because, like, yeah.
Speaker 1:When was that article made?
Speaker 3:Let me see that Two years ago.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's beautiful. That's fairly recent. Beautiful. That is good to know. Well, like I said, um, before we get into the scheduling, like I said, I just wanted to give moroses to fox because not a lot of people, you know, acknowledge him for his song, and I feel like they should, even though boozy has the spelling part, and that's what people gravitate towards. Um, but yeah, so, uh, yeah, we're gonna get to this. Uh schedule, like I say on all the other ones, um, oh, that's my phone. Um, if you want to know where I'm gonna be at, my schedule is on my instagram and my twitter. Y'all go ahead and uh follow me on instagram dj, turn up t-u-u-r-n-u-u-p. With dj in front of it I don't remember if I said that or not. And then twitter is the same thing, just with the turn up on it. Just, no, dj, uh, tanaka, where you gonna be at uh, we talking about the march schedule?
Speaker 3:uh, yeah, I don't. I don't have my march schedule as of right now. You know I'm saying, but you could follow me at dj tanaka I. I got my skate videography at Shot by Tanaka, shot by T-A-N-A-K-A. Follow me there and just stay tuned, check my notes, because that's usually where I post, where I be at, and Big 2-0,. Man, it was a pleasure having you know what I'm saying, a fellow delinquent out, so you dig. Pleasure being here, pleasure being.
Speaker 3:You know I'm saying uh, dj neshea has called. Did you want to say what's up to the tnc podcast?
Speaker 1:bro, you should got all the guests coming in today yeah, I know right um podcast people, I guess, hello is there uh anything that?
Speaker 3:you just cut that part out, just cut it out. Why would you answer the phone while you're still recording? Uh, because you're calling my phone and you were over here upset about text last night, so you know oh, just call me back.
Speaker 1:I was just calling to ask you about a song that I can't figure out. What?
Speaker 3:it is. Go ahead and ask the song.
Speaker 1:You got three DJs here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got three DJs.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I know it's the Weeknd and it goes the bass line is Earned it, that's earned it what? Is it Earned it? When are you playing that song? That song is slow as fuck.
Speaker 2:I couldn't freaking remember it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, thanks. Love you guys. Uh-huh Bye. Why the hell would you play that song? That song is like 30. That song is like 30.
Speaker 3:She probably want to play it with a slow set song, probably, she probably want to play with a slow set, probably want to play it in the freak off room.
Speaker 1:Did you finish yours? I don't remember if you finished yours or not. February, no March.
Speaker 3:I don't know my dates in March Do you have anything. Not to my knowledge, but yeah, man you uh big. So did you uh get an understanding? Uh, did we get some straightening out in regards to the whole kenny lamar and all that?
Speaker 2:man, it's been understood as long as look is there, is there has there been a little bit?
Speaker 1:has there been a little has?
Speaker 3:there anything okay been a little bit? Has there anything Okay? Has there been?
Speaker 2:No, I understand, Like walking into this conversation, I understand.
Speaker 1:So all this stuff that we told you, you already understood.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was about to say so nothing has changed. So there was nothing new that we enlightened you to from what we said.
Speaker 2:No, me personally. I just came with a challenge. That's all Great, that's all great. So, okay, what's your schedule for march? March? I don't. I don't really have much going on on march. You just gotta stay tuned. Um, I still do dj, so just you know, check me out at underscore dj 20 um check out my latest projects on 20 photos and my website link in the bio for 20 photos. So that's what I got going on.
Speaker 1:Alright, so that was the TNT podcast. Y'all TNT and T Tonic Tonic. Why do I keep calling it tonic Tanaka? Turn up 20, we'll see y'all on the flip side. Thank you, outro Music.